Comments on: The Miseducation of Fareed Zakaria http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suhail http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39485 Suhail Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:41:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39485 <p>So if Bush was brown skinned and professed a Classical Liberal belief - then he would not be so bad. Oh, and I forgot, he should also support gay marriage.</p> <p>If the above criteria are met, then morals and conventions be damned.</p> <p>Good Call Sepia.</p> So if Bush was brown skinned and professed a Classical Liberal belief – then he would not be so bad. Oh, and I forgot, he should also support gay marriage.

If the above criteria are met, then morals and conventions be damned.

Good Call Sepia.

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By: c b http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39363 c b Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:36:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39363 <p>Also a newbie to SM... (your blog is fantastic, by the way!)</p> <p>The above posters have probably answered this already, (and more articulately) but what the hey...</p> <p>"Conservative" is a conflation of two separate ideological phenomena in the States: 1) The "classical liberal"/neoliberal element (exemplified by those such as Zakaria) 2) The socially conservative (as opposed to socially progressive pro-gay rights, etc) element a central component of which is the "religious right". Both "conservative" elements were supportive of the Iraq war - Mr. Zakaria's initial support was grounded in the belief that economic liberalization of a formerly socialist-nationalist Iraq would be mutually beneficial to both Iraqis and Americans. He seems to have (for good reason) changed his mind.</p> <p>I don't think anyone is "giving him a pass" (at least I hope not). Although I disagree with his ideological framework, Mr. Zakaria is interesting on a few levels - he is both an intelligent <i>mainstream </i> analyst who speaks to the American public and a minority, who speaks on the behalf of many conservative-minded desis. On the same note, it is a bit dangerous to have Fareed Zakaria "represent" an ethnic "community" - comparable to the way that Neil Bissoondath is a minority voice who is both a speaker in and used by the mainstream political right in Canada (he has a fascinating book, Selling Illusions: the Cult of Multiculturalism in Canada)...</p> Also a newbie to SM… (your blog is fantastic, by the way!)

The above posters have probably answered this already, (and more articulately) but what the hey…

“Conservative” is a conflation of two separate ideological phenomena in the States: 1) The “classical liberal”/neoliberal element (exemplified by those such as Zakaria) 2) The socially conservative (as opposed to socially progressive pro-gay rights, etc) element a central component of which is the “religious right”. Both “conservative” elements were supportive of the Iraq war – Mr. Zakaria’s initial support was grounded in the belief that economic liberalization of a formerly socialist-nationalist Iraq would be mutually beneficial to both Iraqis and Americans. He seems to have (for good reason) changed his mind.

I don’t think anyone is “giving him a pass” (at least I hope not). Although I disagree with his ideological framework, Mr. Zakaria is interesting on a few levels – he is both an intelligent mainstream analyst who speaks to the American public and a minority, who speaks on the behalf of many conservative-minded desis. On the same note, it is a bit dangerous to have Fareed Zakaria “represent” an ethnic “community” – comparable to the way that Neil Bissoondath is a minority voice who is both a speaker in and used by the mainstream political right in Canada (he has a fascinating book, Selling Illusions: the Cult of Multiculturalism in Canada)…

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By: suhail http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39341 suhail Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:06:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39341 <p>I am new to your blog. Great posts and informed comments all around. However, I am bothered by the way you give a pass to Fareed Zakaria on the Iraq war. Some of you claim that he is not a conservative like that Ponnuru - as if supporting gay rights makes it ok to kill Innocent Iraqi's and American's ? Why the double standard? Hope one of you enlightens me....</p> I am new to your blog. Great posts and informed comments all around. However, I am bothered by the way you give a pass to Fareed Zakaria on the Iraq war. Some of you claim that he is not a conservative like that Ponnuru – as if supporting gay rights makes it ok to kill Innocent Iraqi’s and American’s ? Why the double standard? Hope one of you enlightens me….

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By: Rani http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39332 Rani Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:34:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39332 <p>More FZ in the <a href="http://www.observer.com/media_newsstory2.asp">NY Observer.</a></p> More FZ in the NY Observer.

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By: badmash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39282 badmash Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:12:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39282 <p>Looks interesting, spank you!</p> Looks interesting, spank you!

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By: inanities http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39280 inanities Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:51:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39280 <p>Here's another <a href="http://www.observer.com/pageone_featurebox.asp"> 1 </a> on Zakaria.</p> Here’s another 1 on Zakaria.

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By: Sahej http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39175 Sahej Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:50:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39175 <p>There's a lot of inequality in India so its not surprising that there's lots of conservatives</p> <p>;-)</p> There’s a lot of inequality in India so its not surprising that there’s lots of conservatives

;-)

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39092 Kush Tandon Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:44:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39092 <p><b>badmash & technophobicgeek,</b></p> <p>I think Amartya Sen is way ahead of all the other "India/ Developing World Experts". if you get a chance, <a href="http://nobelprize.org/economics/laureates/1998/sen-autobio.html">read his Nobel Prize acceptance speech</a>.</p> <p>Yesterday, I read his piece "<a href="http://www.economist.com/theworldin/asia/displayStory.cfm?story_id=5133493&d=2006">Contrary India</a>" in The Economist - and then had to order the book.</p> badmash & technophobicgeek,

I think Amartya Sen is way ahead of all the other “India/ Developing World Experts”. if you get a chance, read his Nobel Prize acceptance speech.

Yesterday, I read his piece “Contrary India” in The Economist – and then had to order the book.

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By: technophobicgeek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39090 technophobicgeek Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:30:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39090 <p>Yes, Kush, it's a wonderful book. Again, one of the other most well-balanced writers and thinkers that India has. Definitely a book which should influence anyone's thinking about India.</p> Yes, Kush, it’s a wonderful book. Again, one of the other most well-balanced writers and thinkers that India has. Definitely a book which should influence anyone’s thinking about India.

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By: zakariafan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/12/19/the_miseducatio/comment-page-1/#comment-39089 zakariafan Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:25:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2762#comment-39089 <p>Fareed Zakaria is HOT!</p> Fareed Zakaria is HOT!

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