And guess what? I’m from Argentina and these guys too over Argentina and are now racist against native americans there! And against Bolivians! And against Paraguayans! And against Brazilians! And against Dominicans!

And anyone who is not a white Argentine.

I am tired of these people being racist so please don’t take my post wrong. I hate racism and I cannot stand these italians whose grandpa went to the US or Argentina freaking starving to death, AND THEIR SONS ARE NOW RACISTS! LOOK AT THAT? CAUSE THEY HAPPENED TO BE BORN IN THE AMERICAN CONTINENT!

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We could all very well say the same about Indians, look how we are about skin color!!!!!!

I mean Indians ,to a large extent, are very conscious of their skin colour. Fairness Treatment especially in case of women is a huge market BUT now they have come up with a fairness cream for men.

Hallejullah!

Now I can get married.

as I said about the other discussions with MoorNam, unless you know what happens on both sides of the Pond equally

I’ve worked in the US(mostly), Canada, UK, Austria, Singapore, Mumbai.

Jai – I loved the phrase “plastic ceiling”!!

M. Nam

Without giving away too much personal information on a very public discussion forum, my own professional background involves several of the sectors we’ve been discussing. A number of these firms do have formal diversity initiatives in place — although the extent to which this is implemented “on the ground” obviously varies according to the specific company and the various hiring managers. In any case, as I said before, it’s not just a matter of numbers — and yes there are a lot of Asians within both of these industries — but the number at management level, and more pertinently, the number of Asian managers in divisions which are the most prestigious and enable them to have genuine power and influence.

Some divisions are more valued than others. Plus, of course, some areas within these sectors generally have more Asians than others too (traditionally and in terms of recent “targetting” of these roles by desis) — but again, it’s a question of how these areas are generally regarded with regards to prestige, competitiveness, and the “value” they are perceived to add.

But as you said, this question is best answered by someone with an equal level of business exposure on both sides of the Atlantic and with a sufficient level of management-level seniority.

IB in the UK has a smattering of the old boys’ network when it comes to trading. And the positive about the old boys’ network is that it’s colour blind. In medicine, banking, whatever – if you went to the same school as the boss you’re sorted, doesn’t matter what hue your skin is.

Goldman and PWC specifically said that their London offices have the ethnic make-up they desire and would like other international branches to emulate. Goldman employs more Asians than I’d care to guess at, but admittedly I haven’t heard figures on them all.

Another friend has become the youngest director at Deloitte (he is Pakistani). When I visit the City, I am always shocked by how many brown faces there are and to be honest I find it weird.

Anyway, as I said about the other discussions with MoorNam, unless you know what happens on both sides of the Pond equally well, all this speculation is pointless.

Interesting. The Mickinsey New York office may be 50% Indian-American. All of the investment banks have very substantial South Asian representation. Vikram Pandit came close to getting a shot at the helm of Morgan Stanley, before a power struggle forced him out.

I’m referring specifically to Tier 1 investment banks and consultancies. Unless you’re talking about programmers (including those imported recently from India), here in the UK they have fewer desis right across the board compared to their less prestigious rivals.