Comments on: 55Friday: “This Woman’s Work” edition http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pakhtuni woman n proud http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-121481 pakhtuni woman n proud Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:41:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-121481 <p>Redrejesh-ur an idiot, a complete idiot if you HONESTLy believe that men suffer MORE domestic violence. I have all the reserach in the world to prove otherwise. You sound like a chauvinistic asshole. Wake up and smell your chai because you definitely need a reality check</p> Redrejesh-ur an idiot, a complete idiot if you HONESTLy believe that men suffer MORE domestic violence. I have all the reserach in the world to prove otherwise. You sound like a chauvinistic asshole. Wake up and smell your chai because you definitely need a reality check

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By: Redrajesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-118994 Redrajesh Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:18:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-118994 <p>Kenyan Desi: Get your facts right..funds exist only for womens diseases. Billions of dollars get spent on research for breast cancer, but hardly 1 % of that gets spent on research for prostrate cancer. In a lot of places in the world women are denied access to education, livelihood, but they do not have the responsibility of providing for the family and they get the right to a free lunch off the guys money...and women can give excuses of not being educated for not bringing in money...nobody on earth ever gives a guy the right to any excuse.</p> <p>ARJ: Get your facts right...there are more male victims of domestic violence than female. It is just that no one ever gives help to a male. Society is misandric and expects men to take care of themselves and give to women while women should be pampered and given all that they desire.</p> <p>Women who have the opportunities for education and livelihood do not have the responsibility of providing for anything...on top of it, legal systems all over the world give women the power to kill the guy by filing any case and get him arrested without any proof with no repercussions if the woman files a false case. Women claim to have the responsibility of taking care of the kids, but women who do not do that work cannot be held responsible legally in any manner and they just harass the husband with false cases and the threat of a divorce which is all about taking money from the hardworking man and giving his money to the woman in the name of alimony and child support even when it is perfectly clear that the man has done nothing wrong. Besides, a woman is needed only during the pregnancy and breastfeeding stage. Beyond that, a child does not need a mother anyway...a father can do equally well. When such circumstances exist where the man is under constant threat from the woman, only a complete fool will believe that women are abused.</p> <p>Jai Singh: Women who are conditioned for defence are the ones who wasted their childhood thinking that they would get married and live off the blood of the husband and enjoy life by doing nothing while the guy does all the hard work of bringing in the money by putting up with office work, deadlines, stress and office politics. Women who expected a free lunch all their life deserve to face the consequences of their irresponsibility in the same manner that a man who is irresponsible is expected to face the consequences of his actions. Or if the woman was denied opportunities because of her parents, it is the parents who deserve to be punished and not the husband who is working for his money unlike women who live off his money.</p> <p>1 in 6 statistic from UN - UN as an agency is probably one of the most corrupt and unethical ones in the world with a sole intent of swindling tax money from all taxpayers in the world. In five years, Bill Gates has achieved more than what the WHO has achieved in more than 50 years which shows the extent of corruption that pervades UN. UN also released another false statistic that 70% of Indian women were abused, but when questioned by RADAR as to how they came up with that statistic went scurrying for cover and retracted that statement.</p> Kenyan Desi: Get your facts right..funds exist only for womens diseases. Billions of dollars get spent on research for breast cancer, but hardly 1 % of that gets spent on research for prostrate cancer. In a lot of places in the world women are denied access to education, livelihood, but they do not have the responsibility of providing for the family and they get the right to a free lunch off the guys money…and women can give excuses of not being educated for not bringing in money…nobody on earth ever gives a guy the right to any excuse.

ARJ: Get your facts right…there are more male victims of domestic violence than female. It is just that no one ever gives help to a male. Society is misandric and expects men to take care of themselves and give to women while women should be pampered and given all that they desire.

Women who have the opportunities for education and livelihood do not have the responsibility of providing for anything…on top of it, legal systems all over the world give women the power to kill the guy by filing any case and get him arrested without any proof with no repercussions if the woman files a false case. Women claim to have the responsibility of taking care of the kids, but women who do not do that work cannot be held responsible legally in any manner and they just harass the husband with false cases and the threat of a divorce which is all about taking money from the hardworking man and giving his money to the woman in the name of alimony and child support even when it is perfectly clear that the man has done nothing wrong. Besides, a woman is needed only during the pregnancy and breastfeeding stage. Beyond that, a child does not need a mother anyway…a father can do equally well. When such circumstances exist where the man is under constant threat from the woman, only a complete fool will believe that women are abused.

Jai Singh: Women who are conditioned for defence are the ones who wasted their childhood thinking that they would get married and live off the blood of the husband and enjoy life by doing nothing while the guy does all the hard work of bringing in the money by putting up with office work, deadlines, stress and office politics. Women who expected a free lunch all their life deserve to face the consequences of their irresponsibility in the same manner that a man who is irresponsible is expected to face the consequences of his actions. Or if the woman was denied opportunities because of her parents, it is the parents who deserve to be punished and not the husband who is working for his money unlike women who live off his money.

1 in 6 statistic from UN – UN as an agency is probably one of the most corrupt and unethical ones in the world with a sole intent of swindling tax money from all taxpayers in the world. In five years, Bill Gates has achieved more than what the WHO has achieved in more than 50 years which shows the extent of corruption that pervades UN. UN also released another false statistic that 70% of Indian women were abused, but when questioned by RADAR as to how they came up with that statistic went scurrying for cover and retracted that statement.

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By: The Desi Nole http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36221 The Desi Nole Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:32:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36221 <p>Given that I was in Sin City, my 55 is a lil late.</p> <p>If the comment section still works, you can read it at <a href="http://desinole.com/2005/11/being_respectful_is_not_being.html">here</a></p> Given that I was in Sin City, my 55 is a lil late.

If the comment section still works, you can read it at here

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By: Jai Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36091 Jai Singh Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:20:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36091 <p>Thank you Badmash and Kenyan Desi -- I've just been speaking from the heart :)</p> <p>(The romantic 55s, not the wife-beating ones, obviously !)</p> Thank you Badmash and Kenyan Desi — I’ve just been speaking from the heart :)

(The romantic 55s, not the wife-beating ones, obviously !)

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By: Kenyandesi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36067 Kenyandesi Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:33:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36067 <p>Thanks Jai, as always you never fail to please...I echo badmash...wah wah!</p> Thanks Jai, as always you never fail to please…I echo badmash…wah wah!

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By: badmash http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36004 badmash Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:50:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36004 <blockquote>She is every heartbreaking ghazal</blockquote> <p>Oooooof! Jai Singh, you've done it again!</p> She is every heartbreaking ghazal

Oooooof! Jai Singh, you’ve done it again!

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By: Jai Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36001 Jai Singh Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:48:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36001 <p>My last one for this week, to finish on a more positive note.....</p> <p>She is my gateway to paradise She is laughter in the sunshine She is every heartbreaking ghazal She is every gorgeous sunset She is every hope and dream She is the one, without any question, without any doubt She is liberation She is love She is life She is the other half of my soul.</p> My last one for this week, to finish on a more positive note…..

She is my gateway to paradise She is laughter in the sunshine She is every heartbreaking ghazal She is every gorgeous sunset She is every hope and dream She is the one, without any question, without any doubt She is liberation She is love She is life She is the other half of my soul.

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By: Jai Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-36000 Jai Singh Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:43:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-36000 <p>Fantastic 55s by Kenyan Desi. A few more from me:</p> <p>The woman lay sobbing in the corner of the bedroom, the bruises on her neck now clearly visible.</p> <p>Her husband had screamed <i>Submit</i>; self-righteous rage and authority justified in the name of the sacred cow of “culture”. It was his divine right, after all, tacitly condoned by “the community”. Compassion and the law be damned.</p> <hr /> <p>There was little the women felt she could do. Conditioned deference on her part, conditioned brutality on his. Her husband would <i>never </i>admit to being wrong; in his mind, his power and superiority must be maintained.</p> <p>She resigned herself to the trap, as her female ancestors had done for 40 generations.</p> <p>Her daughter would not.</p> Fantastic 55s by Kenyan Desi. A few more from me:

The woman lay sobbing in the corner of the bedroom, the bruises on her neck now clearly visible.

Her husband had screamed Submit; self-righteous rage and authority justified in the name of the sacred cow of “culture”. It was his divine right, after all, tacitly condoned by “the community”. Compassion and the law be damned.


There was little the women felt she could do. Conditioned deference on her part, conditioned brutality on his. Her husband would never admit to being wrong; in his mind, his power and superiority must be maintained.

She resigned herself to the trap, as her female ancestors had done for 40 generations.

Her daughter would not.

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By: Kenyan Desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-35983 Kenyan Desi Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:25:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-35983 <p>Thanks ANNA for highlighting this issue.</p> <p>Battered husband, my heart aches for you, but dismissing this issue as a worthless agenda for women with too much time on their hands is not what you want to do is it really? As someone who has been abused, do you not feel that regardless of gender, violence (physical, psychological etc) needs to end? Can you not stand in solidarity with humans, who like you, have been taken advantage of?</p> <p>I aknowledge that men are abused too, by their wives, mothers, fathers, and it is no less dispicable. But evidence shows that women get battered at higher rates. In India and China they get aborted or killed shortly after birth in droves, or die due to neglect, in Africa and the middle east they go through genital mutilation, in America one in four get raped. Child marriage results in girls getting pregnant before their bodies can handle it leading to obstetric complications resulting in fistulas which get them thrown out of their communities. The world over women are denied access to education, money, livlihoods, etc etc etc</p> <p>In Kenya a maasai man when asked about the recent refferendum answered that he voted "no" because the new constitution would include rights for women to equal men's rights. His reasoning: "What kind of man would I be if I was equal to a woman?"</p> <p>Women's diseases get less research funding, and women's rights are sacrificed on the alters of honour and morality.</p> <p>Violence is violence whether the perpetrator is a man or a woman. Dismissing violence against women is horrendous, just as dismissing your side of the story would be. You're extremely right in that your voice does not often get heard, but don't dismiss the people who might very well be on your side championing your cause already.</p> Thanks ANNA for highlighting this issue.

Battered husband, my heart aches for you, but dismissing this issue as a worthless agenda for women with too much time on their hands is not what you want to do is it really? As someone who has been abused, do you not feel that regardless of gender, violence (physical, psychological etc) needs to end? Can you not stand in solidarity with humans, who like you, have been taken advantage of?

I aknowledge that men are abused too, by their wives, mothers, fathers, and it is no less dispicable. But evidence shows that women get battered at higher rates. In India and China they get aborted or killed shortly after birth in droves, or die due to neglect, in Africa and the middle east they go through genital mutilation, in America one in four get raped. Child marriage results in girls getting pregnant before their bodies can handle it leading to obstetric complications resulting in fistulas which get them thrown out of their communities. The world over women are denied access to education, money, livlihoods, etc etc etc

In Kenya a maasai man when asked about the recent refferendum answered that he voted “no” because the new constitution would include rights for women to equal men’s rights. His reasoning: “What kind of man would I be if I was equal to a woman?”

Women’s diseases get less research funding, and women’s rights are sacrificed on the alters of honour and morality.

Violence is violence whether the perpetrator is a man or a woman. Dismissing violence against women is horrendous, just as dismissing your side of the story would be. You’re extremely right in that your voice does not often get heard, but don’t dismiss the people who might very well be on your side championing your cause already.

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By: Kenyan Desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/25/55friday_this_w/comment-page-1/#comment-35980 Kenyan Desi Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:13:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2570#comment-35980 <p><b>Deflated Woman</b> She knew the additional pounds she had recently gained irked him sending his barely tamed eyes wandering. She knew exercise would help, but work exhausted her. She even knew that his calling her a fat lazy bitch would escalate to more.</p> <p>She miscarried his sons the next day. And he never let her forget it.</p> <p>(homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women)</p> <p><b><a href="http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=45979&SelectRegion=East_Africa">Rites of Passage</a></b> In a community where induced pain heralds adulthood, where gracefully bearing it is considered honorable, where mothers hold down daughters, while girls lay helpless, spread-eagled, it was a proud day when the girls became women bearing cuts only because their hands were so unused to the crisp paper upon which their certificates had been printed</p> <p>(2 million girls a year are at risk of FGM/C)</p> <p><b>Spilling Tea</b></p> <p>Watching the tea boil, she lifted the pot by its handle just as the froth threatened to spill over. She had put in the ingredients mumaji liked, wishing for once that today she might please her.</p> <p>Startled her hands flew to her burning face.</p> <p>Chai ubraighai.*</p> <p>Not three months later he married the landowners daughter.</p> <p>*The tea spilled over.</p> Deflated Woman She knew the additional pounds she had recently gained irked him sending his barely tamed eyes wandering. She knew exercise would help, but work exhausted her. She even knew that his calling her a fat lazy bitch would escalate to more.

She miscarried his sons the next day. And he never let her forget it.

(homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women)

Rites of Passage In a community where induced pain heralds adulthood, where gracefully bearing it is considered honorable, where mothers hold down daughters, while girls lay helpless, spread-eagled, it was a proud day when the girls became women bearing cuts only because their hands were so unused to the crisp paper upon which their certificates had been printed

(2 million girls a year are at risk of FGM/C)

Spilling Tea

Watching the tea boil, she lifted the pot by its handle just as the froth threatened to spill over. She had put in the ingredients mumaji liked, wishing for once that today she might please her.

Startled her hands flew to her burning face.

Chai ubraighai.*

Not three months later he married the landowners daughter.

*The tea spilled over.

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