Comments on: If you steal from us we will cut off your hands http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kuntal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-35723 Kuntal Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:13:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-35723 <blockquote> <p>Divya Bhaskar is the largest circulated regional daily in Gujarat.</p> </blockquote> <p>I am from Gujarat and I know for sure that<br /> this claim is bogus. I do not have any pointers to prove it, but you should be able to find it somewhere.</p>

Divya Bhaskar is the largest circulated regional daily in Gujarat.

I am from Gujarat and I know for sure that
this claim is bogus. I do not have any pointers to prove it, but you should be able to find it somewhere.

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33797 Abhi Tue, 08 Nov 2005 01:38:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33797 <blockquote>Thankfully, Abhi, it looks like you won your bet ;)</blockquote> <p>Betting is no fun unless you wager it ALL. :)</p> Thankfully, Abhi, it looks like you won your bet ;)

Betting is no fun unless you wager it ALL. :)

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By: Deepa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33778 Deepa Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:33:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33778 <p>Thankfully, Abhi, it looks like you won your bet ;)</p> Thankfully, Abhi, it looks like you won your bet ;)

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33776 DesiDancer Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:29:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33776 <p>*not taking any shots at SAJA, taking shots at any journalist who starts a sentence defending themself with "I presumed..."</p> *not taking any shots at SAJA, taking shots at any journalist who starts a sentence defending themself with “I presumed…”

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33775 DesiDancer Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:27:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33775 <p>huh? You mean this story didn't just fall into Uttara's inbox, courtesy of SAJA? I figured it was a ready-made story, and all one had to do was slap a byline on it...</p> <p>Gee SAJA, where are my cookie-cutter-ready-made stories?</p> <p>/end sarcasm</p> huh? You mean this story didn’t just fall into Uttara’s inbox, courtesy of SAJA? I figured it was a ready-made story, and all one had to do was slap a byline on it…

Gee SAJA, where are my cookie-cutter-ready-made stories?

/end sarcasm

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By: Deepa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33767 Deepa Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:02:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33767 <p>Why do I feel like you're going to have to go a couple more rounds with Uttara before mutual understanding emerges? :)</p> Why do I feel like you’re going to have to go a couple more rounds with Uttara before mutual understanding emerges? :)

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33766 cicatrix Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:00:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33766 <p>dishoom! dishoom!</p> dishoom! dishoom!

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33764 Manish Vij Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:55:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33764 <p><b>Uttara apologized in email:</b></p> <blockquote>Â… I really did not mean to take credit away from Abhi or Sepia Mutiny. I thought your e-mail which was circulated widely to the press in New York could be used directly as source material.<br><br>I am very upset (with myself) about making a mistake with your first name. I put down Manoj instead of Manish -- very sorry. I presumed you were an aggreived Orange city resident who was reacting to something that was going down in your neighbourhood -- therefore the e-mail from you. In hindsight, I feel I ought to have emailed you back or not touched the story...<br><br>I just thought SAJA was sending out stuff for an important India-centric story which as journalists we ought to write about. Pehaps, I ought to have e-mailed you back to clarify instead of using the e-mail as source material.</blockquote> <p>--</p> <p><b>My reply:</b></p> <blockquote>I'm concerned that the quote was altered-- the text of the quote you used wasn't in the email I sent to SAJA. I've had reporters paraphrase, but not that egregiously. This paraphrase altered the meaning of my quote:<br><br>My quote: "An Orlando city councilman made some incredibly insulting remarks about his Indian-American election opponent." [Later] "Sorry, folks, I meant Orange City, Florida."<br><br>Your paraphrase: "I think it is important that Sherrill understands that he has offended Indians."<br><br>This is a) not accurate (you could have just cut and pasted from the email) and b) implies that I speak for all Indians, which I do not. That's beyond the incorrect attribution (name, city). The weight of the errors is so great, it appears to me like the changes were made on purpose to concoct a quote as opposed to regular, sloppy attribution...<br><br>Using an email as source material is legit if you're on deadline, though it's always better to check with the source first. Making up the words is not!</blockquote> Uttara apologized in email:

Â… I really did not mean to take credit away from Abhi or Sepia Mutiny. I thought your e-mail which was circulated widely to the press in New York could be used directly as source material.

I am very upset (with myself) about making a mistake with your first name. I put down Manoj instead of Manish — very sorry. I presumed you were an aggreived Orange city resident who was reacting to something that was going down in your neighbourhood — therefore the e-mail from you. In hindsight, I feel I ought to have emailed you back or not touched the story…

I just thought SAJA was sending out stuff for an important India-centric story which as journalists we ought to write about. Pehaps, I ought to have e-mailed you back to clarify instead of using the e-mail as source material.

My reply:

I’m concerned that the quote was altered– the text of the quote you used wasn’t in the email I sent to SAJA. I’ve had reporters paraphrase, but not that egregiously. This paraphrase altered the meaning of my quote:

My quote: “An Orlando city councilman made some incredibly insulting remarks about his Indian-American election opponent.” [Later] “Sorry, folks, I meant Orange City, Florida.”

Your paraphrase: “I think it is important that Sherrill understands that he has offended Indians.”

This is a) not accurate (you could have just cut and pasted from the email) and b) implies that I speak for all Indians, which I do not. That’s beyond the incorrect attribution (name, city). The weight of the errors is so great, it appears to me like the changes were made on purpose to concoct a quote as opposed to regular, sloppy attribution…

Using an email as source material is legit if you’re on deadline, though it’s always better to check with the source first. Making up the words is not!
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By: Manoj Vish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33702 Manoj Vish Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:39:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33702 <p>It's so confusing!</p> <blockquote>Manish Voj Manish Vij Manoj Vij Manoj Vish</blockquote> <p>How can we keep them all straight?</p> It’s so confusing!

Manish Voj Manish Vij Manoj Vij Manoj Vish

How can we keep them all straight?

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By: Y. Dorap http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/05/if_you_steal_fr_1/comment-page-1/#comment-33700 Y. Dorap Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:30:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2471#comment-33700 <p>My neighbor in the flat below me is Manoj Vij from Mumbai. He said the same thing as Manish and I am <i>certain</i> it was brother the DMC quotted. This is all a giant coinkidink.</p> <p>Yogesh Dorapandey</p> My neighbor in the flat below me is Manoj Vij from Mumbai. He said the same thing as Manish and I am certain it was brother the DMC quotted. This is all a giant coinkidink.

Yogesh Dorapandey

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