Comments on: Courtesy calls http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: SOPMOD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-40994 SOPMOD Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:54:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-40994 <p>Indeed,I got kicked off of DemocraticUnderground.Com for making very mild Pro-Israel/Pro-Peace posts.</p> <p>Democrats do seem to have become Anti-Semitic and I have wasted my last vote for Brad Carson and will vote Republican at the next opportunity.</p> <p>Any Jew who votes Democrat hates Israel and an Jew who hates Israel isn't really a Jew at all and should have died in the Shoah.</p> Indeed,I got kicked off of DemocraticUnderground.Com for making very mild Pro-Israel/Pro-Peace posts.

Democrats do seem to have become Anti-Semitic and I have wasted my last vote for Brad Carson and will vote Republican at the next opportunity.

Any Jew who votes Democrat hates Israel and an Jew who hates Israel isn’t really a Jew at all and should have died in the Shoah.

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By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32787 razib_the_atheist Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:10:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32787 <p>not all religious leaders are created equal. on the razibo-meter, where falwell would be "nuts," rick land is only "mildly nuts." but, on the nut-conference-call roster of american presidents, bush has taken it toward the nutty side of the graph. aside from the early period of the nation (jefferson wasn't a big fan of the ministerial profession) most presidents have cultivated relations with powerful religions figures. but prior to the 1960s there was an established center of gravity. today, the distribution is flatter, and a president, whether on the left or right, can't help offending people because consultation with one figure excludes others.</p> not all religious leaders are created equal. on the razibo-meter, where falwell would be “nuts,” rick land is only “mildly nuts.” but, on the nut-conference-call roster of american presidents, bush has taken it toward the nutty side of the graph. aside from the early period of the nation (jefferson wasn’t a big fan of the ministerial profession) most presidents have cultivated relations with powerful religions figures. but prior to the 1960s there was an established center of gravity. today, the distribution is flatter, and a president, whether on the left or right, can’t help offending people because consultation with one figure excludes others.

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By: Sal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32783 Sal Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:37:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32783 <p>The left never applied the religious test to jewish nominees to the Supreme Court. They never came forward to ask whether the jewish faith would influence Supreme court decisions of Ginsburg and Breyer.</p> The left never applied the religious test to jewish nominees to the Supreme Court. They never came forward to ask whether the jewish faith would influence Supreme court decisions of Ginsburg and Breyer.

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By: andrea http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32779 andrea Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:27:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32779 <p>I shall only worship MD if worship consists of people sitting around and sharring <a href="http://ekcupchai.typepad.com/">ek cup of communal chai</a> whilst discussing politics without resorting to name-calling, Ann Coulter/Michael Moore quotations or Godwin's Law.</p> <p>Otherwise it is the <a href="http://www.venganza.org/">Flying Spaghetti Monster</a> for me. Yes, I'm fickle like that. ;)</p> I shall only worship MD if worship consists of people sitting around and sharring ek cup of communal chai whilst discussing politics without resorting to name-calling, Ann Coulter/Michael Moore quotations or Godwin’s Law.

Otherwise it is the Flying Spaghetti Monster for me. Yes, I’m fickle like that. ;)

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By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32770 MD Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:47:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32770 <p>Freudian slip! <b>Shouldn't</b> support one religion over the other.....</p> <p>Oh, who am I kidding. The religion of <i>MD worship </i>should prevail, secularites!</p> Freudian slip! Shouldn’t support one religion over the other…..

Oh, who am I kidding. The religion of MD worship should prevail, secularites!

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By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32769 MD Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:44:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32769 <p>I ain't a foo', anymore than you are AM! (PS, why the dropping of the last letter in hip-hop slang? It took me ages to figure out what coo' meant. I'm gonna start my next lecture with," what's crackalackin? Do you thing the students will laugh at me?)</p> <p>Manish, all he did was make a phone call and it's been spun in all sorts of directions, without any proof. And the founders didn't mean religion should have no part of public life; they only meant the government should support one over the other. And Falwell is a dummy. So? I don't think the President is as close to him as some like to make out. Reporters are generally dullards in this regard.</p> <p>Plenty of left/democract politicians politick at predominantly black Baptist churches. Do you think those Southern Baptists are so different in belief? Why not posts on those connections? I think you might find an interesting thing or two. And spare me the, "oh, but they don't get called first, nonsense." That would be sophistry.</p> I ain’t a foo’, anymore than you are AM! (PS, why the dropping of the last letter in hip-hop slang? It took me ages to figure out what coo’ meant. I’m gonna start my next lecture with,” what’s crackalackin? Do you thing the students will laugh at me?)

Manish, all he did was make a phone call and it’s been spun in all sorts of directions, without any proof. And the founders didn’t mean religion should have no part of public life; they only meant the government should support one over the other. And Falwell is a dummy. So? I don’t think the President is as close to him as some like to make out. Reporters are generally dullards in this regard.

Plenty of left/democract politicians politick at predominantly black Baptist churches. Do you think those Southern Baptists are so different in belief? Why not posts on those connections? I think you might find an interesting thing or two. And spare me the, “oh, but they don’t get called first, nonsense.” That would be sophistry.

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By: WesternGhaat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32767 WesternGhaat Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:34:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32767 <p>Did I come to the correct website? this is all strange to me......I mean, if I want politics, I could just go to one of political blogs, right?</p> Did I come to the correct website? this is all strange to me……I mean, if I want politics, I could just go to one of political blogs, right?

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By: runnerwallah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32765 runnerwallah Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:28:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32765 <blockquote>If we remember anything from the Borking of Bork, its that to bring down a Republican Supreme Court nominee, we have to attack the person and make him look crazed and uber conservative who is outside the mainstream. </blockquote> <p>That doesn't sound very democratic to me. Ends do not justify the means.</p> If we remember anything from the Borking of Bork, its that to bring down a Republican Supreme Court nominee, we have to attack the person and make him look crazed and uber conservative who is outside the mainstream.

That doesn’t sound very democratic to me. Ends do not justify the means.

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By: andrea http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32763 andrea Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:18:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32763 <p><i>An average American works hard all day and does not have the time to worry about the expansive or narrow reading of the Commerce Clause and how that will affect his life. This is hardball politics.</i></p> <p>I know this on an intellectual level. I still don't like it. This is why I prefer sparkly things to politics. If mudslinging must occur, I guess it must. But we shouldn't <em>ignore</em> the issues solely for the "Alito eats babies" ad hominem dumbing down for the majority population. It makes us more and more stupid as time goes on. If we must play hardball, let's serve a side of Reasons Why We Should Not Have A One-Sided Court along with the Don't Confirm The Scary Man.</p> An average American works hard all day and does not have the time to worry about the expansive or narrow reading of the Commerce Clause and how that will affect his life. This is hardball politics.

I know this on an intellectual level. I still don’t like it. This is why I prefer sparkly things to politics. If mudslinging must occur, I guess it must. But we shouldn’t ignore the issues solely for the “Alito eats babies” ad hominem dumbing down for the majority population. It makes us more and more stupid as time goes on. If we must play hardball, let’s serve a side of Reasons Why We Should Not Have A One-Sided Court along with the Don’t Confirm The Scary Man.

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By: Legaleagle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/11/01/courtesy_calls/comment-page-1/#comment-32759 Legaleagle Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:57:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2451#comment-32759 <p><i>Alito and his hostility to the Civil Rights Act : </i></p> <blockquote> <p>Alito dissented from a decision in favor of a Marriott Hotel manager who said she had been discriminated against on the basis of race. The majority explained that Alito would have protected racist employers by “immuniz[ing] an employer from the reach of Title VII if the employer’s belief that it had selected the ‘best’ candidate was the result of conscious racial bias.” [Bray v. Marriott Hotels, 1997]</p> <p></p> <p><i>> Alito and his hostility to the rights of the diasbled: </i></p> <p>In Nathanson v. Medical College of Pennsylvania, the majority said the standard for proving disability-based discrimination articulated in Alito’s dissent was so restrictive that “few if any…cases would survive summary judgment.” Summary judgment allows a case to be dismissed before it goes to trial. [Nathanson v.Medical College of Pennsylvania, 1991]</p> <p></p> <p><i>> Alito hates the Family Medical and Leave Act</i></p> <p>The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) "guarantees most workers up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a loved one." The 2003 Supreme Court ruling upholding FMLA [Nevada v. Hibbs, 2003] essentially reversed a 2000 decision by Alito which found that Congress exceeded its power in passing the law. [Chittister v. Department of Community and Economic Development, 2000]</p> <p></p> <p><i>> Atilo and his hatred for the 4rth Amendment protection from unreasonable search and seizure along with his love for unauthorized strip searches:</i></p> <p>In Doe v. Groody, Alito argued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip-searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004]</p> <p></p> <p><i>> Alito does not believe there is any right to privacy: </i></p> <p>In his dissenting opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Alito concurred with the majority in supporting the restrictive abortion-related measures passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in the late 1980s. Alito went further, however, saying the majority was wrong to strike down a requirement that women notify their spouses before having an abortion. The Supreme Court later rejected Alito’s view and also voted to reaffirm Roe v. Wade. [Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 1991]</p> <p></p> <p><i> Alito and his xenophobia </i></p> <p>In two cases involving the deportation of immigrants, the majority twice noted Alito’s disregard of settled law. In Dia v. Ashcroft, the majority opinion states that Alito’s dissent “guts the statutory standard” and “ignores our precedent.” In Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, the majority stated Alito’s opinion contradicted “well-recognized rules of statutory construction.” [Dia v. Ashcroft, 2003; Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, 2004]</p> </blockquote> Alito and his hostility to the Civil Rights Act :

Alito dissented from a decision in favor of a Marriott Hotel manager who said she had been discriminated against on the basis of race. The majority explained that Alito would have protected racist employers by “immuniz[ing] an employer from the reach of Title VII if the employer’s belief that it had selected the ‘best’ candidate was the result of conscious racial bias.” [Bray v. Marriott Hotels, 1997]

> Alito and his hostility to the rights of the diasbled:

In Nathanson v. Medical College of Pennsylvania, the majority said the standard for proving disability-based discrimination articulated in Alito’s dissent was so restrictive that “few if any…cases would survive summary judgment.” Summary judgment allows a case to be dismissed before it goes to trial. [Nathanson v.Medical College of Pennsylvania, 1991]

> Alito hates the Family Medical and Leave Act

The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) “guarantees most workers up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a loved one.” The 2003 Supreme Court ruling upholding FMLA [Nevada v. Hibbs, 2003] essentially reversed a 2000 decision by Alito which found that Congress exceeded its power in passing the law. [Chittister v. Department of Community and Economic Development, 2000]

> Atilo and his hatred for the 4rth Amendment protection from unreasonable search and seizure along with his love for unauthorized strip searches:

In Doe v. Groody, Alito argued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip-searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004]

> Alito does not believe there is any right to privacy:

In his dissenting opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Alito concurred with the majority in supporting the restrictive abortion-related measures passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in the late 1980s. Alito went further, however, saying the majority was wrong to strike down a requirement that women notify their spouses before having an abortion. The Supreme Court later rejected AlitoÂ’s view and also voted to reaffirm Roe v. Wade. [Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 1991]

Alito and his xenophobia

In two cases involving the deportation of immigrants, the majority twice noted Alito’s disregard of settled law. In Dia v. Ashcroft, the majority opinion states that Alito’s dissent “guts the statutory standard” and “ignores our precedent.” In Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, the majority stated Alito’s opinion contradicted “well-recognized rules of statutory construction.” [Dia v. Ashcroft, 2003; Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, 2004]

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