Comments on: Scott McClellan feels the heat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Seeker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-32007 Seeker Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:20:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-32007 <p>Who hired this goyal guy? He's a nut. The administration must pay him to be around. I would love to hear some peer opinions on him.</p> <p>To continue on the side note, OYBBB, thanks for turning me onto hardtalk. I just saw the interview - I'm gonna hunt for other interviews by Stephen Sackur. They really ask pointed questions across the pond, no couching crap in crapola! For some reason I had not come across this news of Menaka's son joining BJP at all. At 25, I thought he handled himself quite well. Politics is indeed in his genes.</p> Who hired this goyal guy? He’s a nut. The administration must pay him to be around. I would love to hear some peer opinions on him.

To continue on the side note, OYBBB, thanks for turning me onto hardtalk. I just saw the interview – I’m gonna hunt for other interviews by Stephen Sackur. They really ask pointed questions across the pond, no couching crap in crapola! For some reason I had not come across this news of Menaka’s son joining BJP at all. At 25, I thought he handled himself quite well. Politics is indeed in his genes.

]]> By: O'Ya Bula Bula Bi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31918 O'Ya Bula Bula Bi Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:18:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31918 <p>Now while Goyal will always be Goyal, my quick question to y'all is - are there any decent and articulate reporters out there representing the Indian media at the White House? I hope he is not all we have to show for.</p> <p>On a side note: I am not sure if anyone here watches BBC World, but it was doing an India exclusive report this whole last week. And in the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/hardtalk/">BBC Hard Talk</a> segment (which I think is absolutely amazing) this guy Stephen Sackur (real hard ass interviewer) interviewed a bunch of ppl including Varun Gandhi. And I tell you that this Gandhi lad has got potential. There were times in the interview where the questions were so pressing, and at times personal, that most people would have lost it, but not this chap!</p> Now while Goyal will always be Goyal, my quick question to y’all is – are there any decent and articulate reporters out there representing the Indian media at the White House? I hope he is not all we have to show for.

On a side note: I am not sure if anyone here watches BBC World, but it was doing an India exclusive report this whole last week. And in the BBC Hard Talk segment (which I think is absolutely amazing) this guy Stephen Sackur (real hard ass interviewer) interviewed a bunch of ppl including Varun Gandhi. And I tell you that this Gandhi lad has got potential. There were times in the interview where the questions were so pressing, and at times personal, that most people would have lost it, but not this chap!

]]> By: The Desi Nole http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31910 The Desi Nole Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:10:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31910 <p>Well Scott does have the toughest job in the White House. I mean, everyone goes screws up and its upto the press secretary to convince the journalists that "it was" for a good case.</p> Well Scott does have the toughest job in the White House. I mean, everyone goes screws up and its upto the press secretary to convince the journalists that “it was” for a good case.

]]> By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31875 Abhi Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:26:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31875 <blockquote>incidentally, Diwali is on TUESDAY November 1st.</blockquote> <p>Hey DesiDancer, looks like Goyal heard you. <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051026-3.html">From today</a>:</p> <blockquote>Go ahead, Goyal. Q First, quick correction -- the Festival of Lights in the White House will be on Tuesday, not Wednesday. Now, my question is -- MR. McCLELLAN: Let's go to quick question because we've got the President's remarks coming up so I can get to a few others. Q -- quick question is that the President spoke on Iraq now the 2,000 died and all. I'm sure that no President wants to see that any one of its citizens will be or should be killed anywhere on this earth, including in Iraq. And this President doing his best to free -- Q -- quick question. Q Question. Q The question is that, who are those people who are killing in Iraq? Where they are coming from, those terrorists that -- they are killing Americans and Iraqis? MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I actually just talked about that in response to Carl's question at the beginning of my question period. So I think I'd refer you back to that. The President talked about it at length yesterday, and talked about the nature of the enemy that we're facing there. And in terms of the sacrifice that is being made, there is tremendous sacrifice that is being made to lay the foundation of peace for our children and grandchildren. We mourn the loss of every one of our men and women in uniform who have lost their life in Afghanistan and in Iraq as they carry out the global war on terrorism. Our men and women in uniform are doing an outstanding job, and they understand the importance of the mission that they're working to complete. And we will be forever grateful, particularly for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend our freedoms and lay the foundation of peace for generations to come. Sarah, go ahead.</blockquote> incidentally, Diwali is on TUESDAY November 1st.

Hey DesiDancer, looks like Goyal heard you. From today:

Go ahead, Goyal. Q First, quick correction — the Festival of Lights in the White House will be on Tuesday, not Wednesday. Now, my question is — MR. McCLELLAN: Let’s go to quick question because we’ve got the President’s remarks coming up so I can get to a few others. Q — quick question is that the President spoke on Iraq now the 2,000 died and all. I’m sure that no President wants to see that any one of its citizens will be or should be killed anywhere on this earth, including in Iraq. And this President doing his best to free — Q — quick question. Q Question. Q The question is that, who are those people who are killing in Iraq? Where they are coming from, those terrorists that — they are killing Americans and Iraqis? MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I actually just talked about that in response to Carl’s question at the beginning of my question period. So I think I’d refer you back to that. The President talked about it at length yesterday, and talked about the nature of the enemy that we’re facing there. And in terms of the sacrifice that is being made, there is tremendous sacrifice that is being made to lay the foundation of peace for our children and grandchildren. We mourn the loss of every one of our men and women in uniform who have lost their life in Afghanistan and in Iraq as they carry out the global war on terrorism. Our men and women in uniform are doing an outstanding job, and they understand the importance of the mission that they’re working to complete. And we will be forever grateful, particularly for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice to defend our freedoms and lay the foundation of peace for generations to come. Sarah, go ahead.
]]> By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31838 Salil Maniktahla Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:25:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31838 <p>Oh no...you didn't mispell "Gandhi."</p> <p>Oh nooooooo.</p> <p>Well, "Masale wallah" clearly don't know yer brain enough to know you know better. A heartfelt "duh" on your behalf.</p> <p>Now, a tiny bird (ok, it was Mona) tells me that there will be an SM gathering in North Beach on Sunday?</p> <p>Details, please. Your favorite DC transplant needs brown surround sound.</p> Oh no…you didn’t mispell “Gandhi.”

Oh nooooooo.

Well, “Masale wallah” clearly don’t know yer brain enough to know you know better. A heartfelt “duh” on your behalf.

Now, a tiny bird (ok, it was Mona) tells me that there will be an SM gathering in North Beach on Sunday?

Details, please. Your favorite DC transplant needs brown surround sound.

]]> By: ng http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31791 ng Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:54:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31791 <blockquote>Then in 1955 it was like Mahatma Ghandi in South Africa, same thing happened to him</blockquote> <p>Gandhi died in 1948 - or is the sentence referring to something else?</p> Then in 1955 it was like Mahatma Ghandi in South Africa, same thing happened to him

Gandhi died in 1948 – or is the sentence referring to something else?

]]> By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31760 razib_the_atheist Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31760 <p>krishna, strictly speaking your facts are correct, but let's be clear here, in 1924 the USA put a stop to most immigration, and what was left was skewed toward northwest europeans. between 1924 and 1965 there was the 'great pause,' and the period after world war ii was when 'ethnic' GIs, whose parents as you note correctly might have been immigrants (or the children of immigrants, the irish catholic waves stretched between 1850 and 1900 for example) became 'white' and like the 'rest of us.' this was the era when catholic priests were lionized in movies and jews became part of the religious establishment. this was, in short, a question of becoming <i>american</i>, and moving <i>past</i> the immigrant experience and life (ethnic parish churches, yiddish culture clubs, etc.). also, i am not one who thinks it prudent to neglect the founding population of this country, who were here before 1776, and shaped region cultures which immigrants slotted themselves into (i.e., john kerry is a half-jewish roman catholic <i>boston brahmin</i>, g.w. bush might be mostly yankee puritan by ancestry, but he expresses the sensibilities of the southern scotch-irish). they still formed the majority, and they still led this country and fought in its wars and helped define its culture (you might be curious for example that in some ways secular jews allied with the WASP elite against roman catholic religious philosophy and public policy, but with the roman catholics against the WASPs when it came to the klan, again, a question of tactics and not idealized strategy). to some extent i believe the cultural elite does emphasize the 1900ish great wave because of the influential russian jewish origin intelligensia which can trace its genesis to this period. this <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/images/im2.1.gif">graph shows absolute numbers of immigrants</a>, note that population was far smaller initially for this nation so the earlier waves needed to be weighted accordingly.</p> krishna, strictly speaking your facts are correct, but let’s be clear here, in 1924 the USA put a stop to most immigration, and what was left was skewed toward northwest europeans. between 1924 and 1965 there was the ‘great pause,’ and the period after world war ii was when ‘ethnic’ GIs, whose parents as you note correctly might have been immigrants (or the children of immigrants, the irish catholic waves stretched between 1850 and 1900 for example) became ‘white’ and like the ‘rest of us.’ this was the era when catholic priests were lionized in movies and jews became part of the religious establishment. this was, in short, a question of becoming american, and moving past the immigrant experience and life (ethnic parish churches, yiddish culture clubs, etc.). also, i am not one who thinks it prudent to neglect the founding population of this country, who were here before 1776, and shaped region cultures which immigrants slotted themselves into (i.e., john kerry is a half-jewish roman catholic boston brahmin, g.w. bush might be mostly yankee puritan by ancestry, but he expresses the sensibilities of the southern scotch-irish). they still formed the majority, and they still led this country and fought in its wars and helped define its culture (you might be curious for example that in some ways secular jews allied with the WASP elite against roman catholic religious philosophy and public policy, but with the roman catholics against the WASPs when it came to the klan, again, a question of tactics and not idealized strategy). to some extent i believe the cultural elite does emphasize the 1900ish great wave because of the influential russian jewish origin intelligensia which can trace its genesis to this period. this graph shows absolute numbers of immigrants, note that population was far smaller initially for this nation so the earlier waves needed to be weighted accordingly.

]]> By: krishna http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31744 krishna Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:32:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31744 <p>just a quick comment about your commentary. when rosa parks first refused to get up, there were tons of immigrants in this country. the year is 1955, remember? you have tens of thousands of children who fought in wwII that are first generation italian-americans, irish-americans, polish-americans and many others, which means that their parents just <i>recently</i> moved to the u.s. i know i'm nitpicking, but to forget that the giant working class that basically built this country in the early 1900's were all immigrants, while the old established white gentry of the 1800's made their pockets fatter (much like they still do) would be a shame. while our struggle is different, the asian-american experience in this country can benefit greatly from close study of the immigrant experience in the early 1900's.</p> just a quick comment about your commentary. when rosa parks first refused to get up, there were tons of immigrants in this country. the year is 1955, remember? you have tens of thousands of children who fought in wwII that are first generation italian-americans, irish-americans, polish-americans and many others, which means that their parents just recently moved to the u.s. i know i’m nitpicking, but to forget that the giant working class that basically built this country in the early 1900′s were all immigrants, while the old established white gentry of the 1800′s made their pockets fatter (much like they still do) would be a shame. while our struggle is different, the asian-american experience in this country can benefit greatly from close study of the immigrant experience in the early 1900′s.

]]> By: Ang http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31724 Ang Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:37:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31724 <p>GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL!</p> GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL! GOYAL!

]]> By: masale.wallah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/scott_mcclellan/comment-page-1/#comment-31720 masale.wallah Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:25:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2416#comment-31720 <p>How hard is to spell 'Gandhi" And why can't most people get it right?</p> How hard is to spell ‘Gandhi” And why can’t most people get it right?

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