Comments on: Leaving it all on the field http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: famin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-32614 famin Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:01:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-32614 <p>I'm the commissioner of the league Abhi is in. My team is overrated. I only win because I picked up Ladanian Tomlinson. That's all I wanted to say.</p> I’m the commissioner of the league Abhi is in. My team is overrated. I only win because I picked up Ladanian Tomlinson. That’s all I wanted to say.

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By: bog bj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-32459 bog bj Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:45:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-32459 <blockquote>B Roethlisberger A QB K Curtis A WR J Shockey A TE R Bironas A K M Hasselbeck RS QB <blockquote> ... our fantasy teams are half-alike ... but the better part for me is I have Tomlinson :)</blockquote></blockquote> B Roethlisberger A QB K Curtis A WR J Shockey A TE R Bironas A K M Hasselbeck RS QB
… our fantasy teams are half-alike … but the better part for me is I have Tomlinson :)
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By: cocopuffs http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-32029 cocopuffs Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:15:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-32029 <blockquote>I think that is preety much the definition of racism. But yes I agree, its quite a stretch to think that there might be racism going on in football. Similarly the whole discrimination against women in the work place thing may be bogus too. May be some one can write a book debunking that whole thing !!!</blockquote> <p>racism overshadows everything, i don't think its a stretch at all, however it is a stretch to say the NFL is prejudice against black QBs, and that it is white position or some sort of conspiracy surrounding it. If anything it just proves to the readers you don't know shit about football, GujuDude hit it right on the money.</p> I think that is preety much the definition of racism. But yes I agree, its quite a stretch to think that there might be racism going on in football. Similarly the whole discrimination against women in the work place thing may be bogus too. May be some one can write a book debunking that whole thing !!!

racism overshadows everything, i don’t think its a stretch at all, however it is a stretch to say the NFL is prejudice against black QBs, and that it is white position or some sort of conspiracy surrounding it. If anything it just proves to the readers you don’t know shit about football, GujuDude hit it right on the money.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31970 RC Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:36:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31970 <blockquote>however its hard to believe that a coach wouldn't even give them a chance to prove themselves.</blockquote> <p>I think that is preety much the definition of racism. But yes I agree, its quite a stretch to think that there might be racism going on in football.</p> <p>Similarly the whole discrimination against women in the work place thing may be bogus too. May be some one can write a book debunking that whole thing !!!</p> however its hard to believe that a coach wouldn’t even give them a chance to prove themselves.

I think that is preety much the definition of racism. But yes I agree, its quite a stretch to think that there might be racism going on in football.

Similarly the whole discrimination against women in the work place thing may be bogus too. May be some one can write a book debunking that whole thing !!!

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31964 Abhi Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:22:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31964 <blockquote>not sure if you guys count golf</blockquote> <p>I don't :)</p> not sure if you guys count golf

I don’t :)

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By: ace http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31961 ace Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:05:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31961 <blockquote>Know any more desi players in professional sports ? All I can think of is half-indian Manny Malhotra who plays in the NHL</blockquote> <p>not sure if you guys count golf, but vijay's ethnically indo, and there's half-swede daniel chopra and top indian jyoti randhawa (sp?)</p> Know any more desi players in professional sports ? All I can think of is half-indian Manny Malhotra who plays in the NHL

not sure if you guys count golf, but vijay’s ethnically indo, and there’s half-swede daniel chopra and top indian jyoti randhawa (sp?)

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31956 GujuDude Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:55:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31956 <blockquote>RC - i dunno Doug williams was the first black quarterback to lead a NFL team to superbowl victory in 1988, thats 17 years ago. Eldridge Dicke was a black quarterback who was drafted in the first round in 1968.</blockquote> <p>Warren Moon played till his arm almost fell off. The Houston Teams he had were pretty good, and he wasn't known as a 'mobile' QB. White guys Steve Young was known as a mobile QB back in the day, so was Mark Brunell. Both guys always scrambled and ran.</p> <p>Randall Cunnigham played for a long time, he was mobile, but people respected him as a QB, too, as they did with Doug Williams. You don't hear people calling Byron Leftwich a 'mobile qb'. The fact is, guys like McNabb and Vick ARE mobile. There are a few media idiots that use it to paint all black qbs, but the NFL doesn't do it.</p> <p>In the NFL, if you don't have talent, regardless of color, you won't hack it. Thats the plain and simple truth. Mannings are there because they are talented. So is Vick, Culpepper, McNabb, Leftwich, etc, and not Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf et. al. NFL cares about money and guys who can play. THAT is the bottom line.</p> RC – i dunno Doug williams was the first black quarterback to lead a NFL team to superbowl victory in 1988, thats 17 years ago. Eldridge Dicke was a black quarterback who was drafted in the first round in 1968.

Warren Moon played till his arm almost fell off. The Houston Teams he had were pretty good, and he wasn’t known as a ‘mobile’ QB. White guys Steve Young was known as a mobile QB back in the day, so was Mark Brunell. Both guys always scrambled and ran.

Randall Cunnigham played for a long time, he was mobile, but people respected him as a QB, too, as they did with Doug Williams. You don’t hear people calling Byron Leftwich a ‘mobile qb’. The fact is, guys like McNabb and Vick ARE mobile. There are a few media idiots that use it to paint all black qbs, but the NFL doesn’t do it.

In the NFL, if you don’t have talent, regardless of color, you won’t hack it. Thats the plain and simple truth. Mannings are there because they are talented. So is Vick, Culpepper, McNabb, Leftwich, etc, and not Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf et. al. NFL cares about money and guys who can play. THAT is the bottom line.

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By: cocopuffs http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31949 cocopuffs Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:36:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31949 <blockquote> If a kid gets a chance to play the QB position only then he can show if he is good or not. Back in the day, black kids didnt get the chance so there wouldnt be any black QB as good as Terry Bradshaw.</blockquote> <p>RC - i think you are full of shit, did you play football in HS? Clearly a lot rests in the hands of the coaches, however its hard to believe that a coach wouldn't even give them a chance to prove themselves.</p> <blockquote>Thats why you see a lot of QB's sons becoming QB in the NFL. Dont you think if you were Archie Manning's kid, the coach at your high school will play you in the QB position??? Finaly all 3 sons become QB wow !!!!</blockquote> <p>Once again your logic in my opinion is retarded, Peyton Manning is a ridiculous quarterback, Eli is still learning. They may have had the benefit of learning from a former star, but to say thats why they are QBs in the NFL now is stupid. Which team does the third brother play for??? oh wait thats right he wasn't that good so he's not in the NFL and doesn't play quarterback.</p> <p>Outside the QB position, what else is so racist about the NFL? By your logic i would say that the NBA is the most racist. Why else would they create the three point shot if it wasn't to give white boys a chance?</p> If a kid gets a chance to play the QB position only then he can show if he is good or not. Back in the day, black kids didnt get the chance so there wouldnt be any black QB as good as Terry Bradshaw.

RC – i think you are full of shit, did you play football in HS? Clearly a lot rests in the hands of the coaches, however its hard to believe that a coach wouldn’t even give them a chance to prove themselves.

Thats why you see a lot of QB’s sons becoming QB in the NFL. Dont you think if you were Archie Manning’s kid, the coach at your high school will play you in the QB position??? Finaly all 3 sons become QB wow !!!!

Once again your logic in my opinion is retarded, Peyton Manning is a ridiculous quarterback, Eli is still learning. They may have had the benefit of learning from a former star, but to say thats why they are QBs in the NFL now is stupid. Which team does the third brother play for??? oh wait thats right he wasn’t that good so he’s not in the NFL and doesn’t play quarterback.

Outside the QB position, what else is so racist about the NFL? By your logic i would say that the NBA is the most racist. Why else would they create the three point shot if it wasn’t to give white boys a chance?

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By: epoch http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31938 epoch Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:33:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31938 <p>Know any more desi players in professional sports ?</p> <p>All I can think of is half-indian <a href="http://cbs.sportsline.com/nhl/players/playerpage/20474">Manny Malhotra</a> who plays in the NHL.</p> Know any more desi players in professional sports ?

All I can think of is half-indian Manny Malhotra who plays in the NHL.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/leaving_it_all_1/comment-page-1/#comment-31928 RC Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:54:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2421#comment-31928 <blockquote>As for mobile QBs, i'm assuming your talkign about people like Culpepper, McNabb and Vick. I think that may have more to do with the evolution of offensive strategy.</blockquote> <p>NO. What I was referring to is the code word, "mobile QB" .. Let me just spell it out.... it means Black QB who is "mobile" is only a good QB because he can run, but he cant be SMART QB like a typical white QB.</p> <blockquote>but i don't think that if you had a black qb back in the day,who was like terry bradshaw, that an NFL team would pass on him merely since he's black.</blockquote> <p>If a kid gets a chance to play the QB position only then he can show if he is good or not. Back in the day, black kids didnt get the chance so there wouldnt be any black QB as good as Terry Bradshaw.</p> <p>Thats why you see a lot of QB's sons becoming QB in the NFL. Dont you think if you were Archie Manning's kid, the coach at your high school will play you in the QB position??? Finaly all 3 sons become QB wow !!!!</p> <p>Again, with all due respect to Siddhartha's POV, I feel that NFL is most racist sport in America. In NBA there is no such prefrential position such as QB, the result can be seen.</p> <p>Offensice and Defensive line players are virtual unknowns, apart from a few who are more flambouyant so people know about them. But mostly they remain the "grunts" working for the King who is the QB.</p> As for mobile QBs, i’m assuming your talkign about people like Culpepper, McNabb and Vick. I think that may have more to do with the evolution of offensive strategy.

NO. What I was referring to is the code word, “mobile QB” .. Let me just spell it out…. it means Black QB who is “mobile” is only a good QB because he can run, but he cant be SMART QB like a typical white QB.

but i don’t think that if you had a black qb back in the day,who was like terry bradshaw, that an NFL team would pass on him merely since he’s black.

If a kid gets a chance to play the QB position only then he can show if he is good or not. Back in the day, black kids didnt get the chance so there wouldnt be any black QB as good as Terry Bradshaw.

Thats why you see a lot of QB’s sons becoming QB in the NFL. Dont you think if you were Archie Manning’s kid, the coach at your high school will play you in the QB position??? Finaly all 3 sons become QB wow !!!!

Again, with all due respect to Siddhartha’s POV, I feel that NFL is most racist sport in America. In NBA there is no such prefrential position such as QB, the result can be seen.

Offensice and Defensive line players are virtual unknowns, apart from a few who are more flambouyant so people know about them. But mostly they remain the “grunts” working for the King who is the QB.

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