Comments on: Exotica shop http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-2/#comment-31980 MD Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:52:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31980 <p>What does 'misappropriation of cultural capital is the hallmark of imperialism' mean? I'm being serious. What does that mean? Look, 'whitefolk' aren't the only ones who create an 'other' and 'misappropriate' things. There is this show in China that is incredibly popular and one of the main characters is this white, western woman who plays a vamp who tries to lure away the good Chinese boy. If you have a globalized culture, with widespread immigration, then you are going to have some light-weight curiousity going on; most people are not going to study each culture in depth. I love Edith Piaf - is it trafficking in French culture if I just like to dabble in Francophelia? I really know nothing about the country, and yet, the Piaf posters and all. It's not imperialism, it's how we start to learn about each other.</p> <p>I had no idea you were just this side of forty! Your blog comments look so much younger! I mean that as a compliment. All that hip-hop on your blog, too. I love it.</p> <p>(And anyway, my playing an old fart is a joke here on SM - it's related to my being a stodgy registered Republican. I can't remember who first called me an old fart. Was it on this blog or another one? I thought it was cute at the time, and thus, a blog persona was born. I think people find it incredibly irritating - Jai Singh called me on it too. I suppose, being a contrarian, I like to be irritating to people).</p> <p>Anyway,</p> <p>peace</p> <p>(It's a nice way to sign off, isn't it? Also, since you are the music type, I am so sad that I won't be able to Saint Etienne because they are not coming to Boston, only New York and Chicago. :( )</p> What does ‘misappropriation of cultural capital is the hallmark of imperialism’ mean? I’m being serious. What does that mean? Look, ‘whitefolk’ aren’t the only ones who create an ‘other’ and ‘misappropriate’ things. There is this show in China that is incredibly popular and one of the main characters is this white, western woman who plays a vamp who tries to lure away the good Chinese boy. If you have a globalized culture, with widespread immigration, then you are going to have some light-weight curiousity going on; most people are not going to study each culture in depth. I love Edith Piaf – is it trafficking in French culture if I just like to dabble in Francophelia? I really know nothing about the country, and yet, the Piaf posters and all. It’s not imperialism, it’s how we start to learn about each other.

I had no idea you were just this side of forty! Your blog comments look so much younger! I mean that as a compliment. All that hip-hop on your blog, too. I love it.

(And anyway, my playing an old fart is a joke here on SM – it’s related to my being a stodgy registered Republican. I can’t remember who first called me an old fart. Was it on this blog or another one? I thought it was cute at the time, and thus, a blog persona was born. I think people find it incredibly irritating – Jai Singh called me on it too. I suppose, being a contrarian, I like to be irritating to people).

Anyway,

peace

(It’s a nice way to sign off, isn’t it? Also, since you are the music type, I am so sad that I won’t be able to Saint Etienne because they are not coming to Boston, only New York and Chicago. :( )

]]> By: Sirc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-2/#comment-31965 Sirc Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:23:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31965 <p>A less heralded progression:</p> <p>1965 Immigration Act/Sputnik-> <i>Sholay</i> -> '84 Reagan landslide -> <i>Full House</i> -> <a href="http://aejmcmagazine.bsu.edu/Testfolder/MaryKateAshley200108.jpg">Mary Kate n' Ashley </a>-> <a href="http://www.indiacause.com/cause/C18_AE_Ganesha.htm">Ganesh slippers</a>.</p> A less heralded progression:

1965 Immigration Act/Sputnik-> Sholay -> ’84 Reagan landslide -> Full House -> Mary Kate n’ Ashley -> Ganesh slippers.

]]> By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-2/#comment-31955 Kush Tandon Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:54:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31955 <p>"and, you're not an "old, cranky fart," ok? you and i are about the same age. or maybe we're both old farts then."</p> <p>me too.</p> <p>come on, guys for lack of real causes, being a cultural (religuous icon) police is a total waste of time and effort. enjoy and let others enjoy too - every one is not going to be herman hesse et al.</p> <p>all we need is love..........</p> “and, you’re not an “old, cranky fart,” ok? you and i are about the same age. or maybe we’re both old farts then.”

me too.

come on, guys for lack of real causes, being a cultural (religuous icon) police is a total waste of time and effort. enjoy and let others enjoy too – every one is not going to be herman hesse et al.

all we need is love……….

]]> By: siddhartha m http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-2/#comment-31953 siddhartha m Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:49:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31953 <p>md, thanks for the props on the coltrane item. as for the whitefolks thing, um, i think we are agreeing here? i'm saying, hey, there's a market for this stuff. and i'm glad that there are some desi entrepreneurs exploiting it, alongside the various non-desi and corporate peddlers of faux-spiritual artefacts and symbolism.</p> <p>now, if your point is that whitefolks (that's a technical term, by the way -- not to be confused with "all white people") DON'T traffick in "lite" versions of exotic cultures, then we disagree on that. misappropriation of cultural capital is a hallmark trait of imperialism, has been since the dawn of time.</p> <p>but again, with respect to the "om" t-shirts and whatnot, it's all good with me. let a hundred flowers bloom.</p> <p>and, you're not an "old, cranky fart," ok? you and i are about the same age. or maybe we're both old farts then.</p> <p>extra dose of peace</p> md, thanks for the props on the coltrane item. as for the whitefolks thing, um, i think we are agreeing here? i’m saying, hey, there’s a market for this stuff. and i’m glad that there are some desi entrepreneurs exploiting it, alongside the various non-desi and corporate peddlers of faux-spiritual artefacts and symbolism.

now, if your point is that whitefolks (that’s a technical term, by the way — not to be confused with “all white people”) DON’T traffick in “lite” versions of exotic cultures, then we disagree on that. misappropriation of cultural capital is a hallmark trait of imperialism, has been since the dawn of time.

but again, with respect to the “om” t-shirts and whatnot, it’s all good with me. let a hundred flowers bloom.

and, you’re not an “old, cranky fart,” ok? you and i are about the same age. or maybe we’re both old farts then.

extra dose of peace

]]> By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-2/#comment-31946 MoorNam Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:17:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31946 <p>Sid writes:>><I>much of hinduism's resilience stems from its lack of single canon or regulating/dogmatic authority (sorry, saffronists).</I></p> <p>The "sorry" is out of place. Saffronists agree with your statement about Hinduism's resilience.</p> <p>M. Nam</p> Sid writes:>>much of hinduism’s resilience stems from its lack of single canon or regulating/dogmatic authority (sorry, saffronists).

The “sorry” is out of place. Saffronists agree with your statement about Hinduism’s resilience.

M. Nam

]]> By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-1/#comment-31945 Manish Vij Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:13:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31945 <blockquote>... some kid in Ohio thinks the om symbol looks cool and puts it on a t-shirt. Oh, the horror!</blockquote> <p>We don't regulate Paris Hilton, but we don't admire her either.</p> … some kid in Ohio thinks the om symbol looks cool and puts it on a t-shirt. Oh, the horror!

We don’t regulate Paris Hilton, but we don’t admire her either.

]]> By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-1/#comment-31944 MD Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:07:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31944 <p>Ok, the fact that I can't spell doesn't excuse me from spelling your name wrong, siddhartha m. Sorry.</p> <p>And I definitely agree with your point about hinduism's reslience.</p> <p><i>peace</i></p> <p>(see, I can learn new things, too. I'm not such an old, cranky, fart).</p> Ok, the fact that I can’t spell doesn’t excuse me from spelling your name wrong, siddhartha m. Sorry.

And I definitely agree with your point about hinduism’s reslience.

peace

(see, I can learn new things, too. I’m not such an old, cranky, fart).

]]> By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-1/#comment-31943 MD Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:04:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31943 <p>"if whitefolks weren't so keen on lite-weight cultural appropriation"..... Uh, sorry, but this sentence made me laugh out loud. I'm sure that's what the 'whitefolks' are up to, those devious, er, 'whiteys?' Goodness, some kid in Ohio thinks the om symbol looks cool and puts it on a t-shirt. Oh, the horror! Go, lame cultural appropriationists, go. Make money. Be happy. Be free. Ignore those that would tell you how you should view the world and what you should find interesting or beautiful or, even, appropriate. Explore the world any damn way you want.</p> <p>(Anyway, sidhharth m, nice article about the Coltrane memorial concert, which I also attended, and which rocked).</p> “if whitefolks weren’t so keen on lite-weight cultural appropriation”….. Uh, sorry, but this sentence made me laugh out loud. I’m sure that’s what the ‘whitefolks’ are up to, those devious, er, ‘whiteys?’ Goodness, some kid in Ohio thinks the om symbol looks cool and puts it on a t-shirt. Oh, the horror! Go, lame cultural appropriationists, go. Make money. Be happy. Be free. Ignore those that would tell you how you should view the world and what you should find interesting or beautiful or, even, appropriate. Explore the world any damn way you want.

(Anyway, sidhharth m, nice article about the Coltrane memorial concert, which I also attended, and which rocked).

]]> By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-1/#comment-31906 Manish Vij Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:42:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31906 <blockquote>Perhaps one possible solution is greater regulation of the sale & distribution of such imagery and icons, in order to prevent its abuse.</blockquote> <p>Hmm... not so much. That's why 'we' left England in the first place, old chap ;)</p> Perhaps one possible solution is greater regulation of the sale & distribution of such imagery and icons, in order to prevent its abuse.

Hmm… not so much. That’s why ‘we’ left England in the first place, old chap ;)

]]> By: Ex-lawyer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/10/26/exotica_shop/comment-page-1/#comment-31893 Ex-lawyer Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:13:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2418#comment-31893 <p>As much as those types of designs irk me, I absolutely believe in freedom of expression.</p> As much as those types of designs irk me, I absolutely believe in freedom of expression.

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