at a country level we were busy competeting with pakistan, while china looked ahead and was competeting with itself.

just take the example of india’s influence in tibet, nepal ? Look at srilanka, india had so long been funding srilanka on various fronts only to realise lately that china is setting up a harbour without much efforts and srilanka’s is buying weapons from china while india gives soft loan.

Lets face the fact, we do not have a long term stragegy(take india’s policies – domestic & international in the last 20 years) we do not have the will to keep our nation internally under control ( take kashmir, punjab, maoists fm bihar to andhra, northeast) primiarily we should not allow such things to happen. we still go on brahmin bragging either thrashing or supporting ( brahmins contribute about 3% of the population, why such a big hue and cry?) we just allow events to control us, corrupt politicians to make their money/way. we are just lazy to do a hard work, just keen on mastrubating, the data of sucessful indians abroad, some it parks in the country, bollywood, cricket, and victory over pakistan is more than enough to keep indians day dreaming. We do not have pride as indians, try meeting an indian along with a white man with you outside india. the indian will drool at the whiteman and look at you as an intruder. (whereas a pakistani or bangladeshi may be hospitable to you as a person from the subcontinent) Our enemy is Pakistan, pakistan & pakistan the rest are friends, or potential friends or superior(we have to appease them). Take the example of surabjit in pakistani jail the hue and cry made by the media and the country for his death scentance. (this is good) but what about the indian fishermen killed by the srilankan navy?? (is any one hearing ??)

re: kalam, I agree that reasonable people may disagree, but this is why I think he’s a Brahmin.

A self-aggrandizing delusion. Since when did the fisherman caste become brahmin??

Analysis of these data demonstrated that the upper castes have a higher affinity to Europeans than to Asians, and the upper castes are significantly more similar to Europeans than are the lower castes.

Yet the upper castes look no different from the lower castes, and indeed find themselves lowly outcastes among non-pc europeans. The most despised people in europe are the gypsies, who supposedly originated in northwest India.

The Brahmin roll call among top civil servants is even more impressive

But their performance is the exact opposite of impressive, isnt it? The indian babus are among the most corrupt, incompetent and callous scoundrels in the world. So much for brahmin “impressiveness”

the Indian contribution to software development, feted worldwide

Who are you kidding? Name anything original in software that has come out of India? Tiny nations like Finland have made far greater contributions in IT than the code coolies that you are exalting.

In the Hindi belt they still matter in politics, they still dominate the bureaucracy, they still possess sizeable land and economic resources.

Yes, and the hindi belt also happens to be the most backward region of India. Coincidence?

Isnt it noteworthy that the states with the highest number of brahmins perform the poorest?

The chiefs of the Army and the Air Force, Gen. S. Padmanabhan and Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy, are Brahmins.

That should scare you, when you consider the sorry reputation of brahmins in the martial spirit department

The last time the Indian armed forces were led by a brahmin, General Kaul, in actual battle, India suffered the most humiliating defeat of the 20th century. The great brahmin warrior abandoned his troops and ran off to Delhi to nurse a sore throat!!

Truly shameful. India totally deserves the contempt of the world. It is proof of the sheer stupidity of the indian babus that they thought they could fool the world with the LIE of 18% poverty!

Half of indian children are starving; if thats not the worst kind of poverty, what is??

Chances are that if China played cricket it would probably demolish India’s overhyped yet mediocre team.

The captain of the Australian cricket team, Ricky Ponting, is part chinese. This is perhaps the best cricket team of the modern era.

India on the other hand, obsessed though it is with this colonial legacy, has never been a cricket powerhouse as Australia, England and West Indies have been. It even has a losing record against arch rivals Pakistan.

In sports as in most everything else, the Indian subcontinent is at the very bottom.

India love to show off, have huge egos, and love to worship the white man. America is fixated on India? yeah maybe lou dobb from CNN. Come on I live in America and if you ask 100 American where india is, they wouldn’t be able to tell you. All the races is represented in sports and pop cultre in America except for Indian. Don’t belive me watch television over here. Yes, yes you will here about India on MSNBC or CNN, but only 5% of US’s pop actually watch the news

When was the last time American public pay a cent to see a bollywood movie? Lets not even talk about the Olympics. Critcket? the white man gave you that sports, and American invented Baseball cause they knew any real man would never play cricket.

Indian was jumping for joy and acting like the savior has arrived when BUsh or Bill Gates visits. Indians get gitty up if the white man pays any attention to Inida.

Indians and the indian media is obsess and fixated on the attention of the white man. India thinks they deserve the blessing and investment form the white man. Still bitter fromt he very first day Nixon and Kissenger gave China the attention.

Uncle Sam wants to use you to Check China and most Indian would be glad to let the white man be his master once again.

I am nerither Indian nor Chinese, but I have close friends who are American-indo and American-Chinese

Most chinese still have an inferior complex toewards the west but they are growing in confidence and see there destiny as a superpower Chinese don’t compare themselves to Indians they shoot for the star and competes with AMerica Europe or Japan and wants to eb the best.

Most Indians see they destiny as better thant he chinese but want the white man to be his master and always seeking the aproval of the white man.

Read any ariticle on any newspaper. Always bashign China and drooling over the whtie man superiority as and claiming they have a “special relationship” white man.

Wake up my Indians friends first you have confidents in yourself not cokiness then India will be truly a nation that the worlds woudl respect.

After a couple decades of liberalization and supposedly high growth rates, India still has a per capita income of around $500 a year! Thats about 50% less than that of Africa. India also compares unfavorably with Africa in malnutrition, child labor, sanitation facilities….

The Indian subcontinent is easily the most miserably impoverished region on the planet. Thats what 6 decades of “independence”, democracy, english education etc have achieved.

If China cooks its statistics it is to mask its actual growth. The current per capita income of China is well over 2000 dollars a year. This is based on a controlled exchange rate that is widely considered as being about 40% below what it should be. Which makes the actual nominal per capita income of China at around $3000. Or 6 times larger than India’s.

First of all of am not a Chinamen, but I lived enough in Hong Kong and travel extensively in China. If you have traveled and lived in China you will know that you cannot compare and blame Chinese. They are Chinese and they have their own way of living, thinking and doing things.

There is always a point in history that we cannot change but we learn form it. What do we learn from it. Chinese was invaded by Japanese – you have to go down deep to see what happen and how this will be avoided. Japanese choose the right time to attack. At that time, China was divided. There were already conflicts between the communist and democratic parties. Also the emperor was loosing its hold. It was more like a civil war within China. So just taking one point of time and comparing with slavery and freedom is plain stupid. India was also occupied by the British, does it make them slaves? “It doesn’t bother me if chinese are e.g desperate to prove their worthiness to the world with the help of steroids (just like the other communist countries) while Indians don’t care. “ Indians always have this ‘donÂ’t careÂ’ attitude. So if they do not do well in sports, economy, etc it really does not matter. Who cares? So many Indians are living in poverty – who care? The main city smell like shit – does anyone care ? Oh the Chinese did good in sports Â… ah they use steroids… ‘all of them use steroidsÂ’Â… How about Indians? Who cares? We like to brag – we can do better than Chinese. Â…but who cares if we do worst? Education: People always talk about IIT, but most IIT goes outside. There are even many of them in Hong Kong. How about retaining the ‘cream of the creamÂ’ in India? In India, who cares? China on the other hand is investing heavily in education and trying to retain their people. The Chinese universities like Tsinghua (not to mention the top universities in Hong Kong with world class research labs) are building up top research labs. Also, Chinese government does not have to guarantee employment/stability. It just create the right environment for investment. Before I also had this feeling that the government has to guarantee everything. But it is rarely the case. If you have been to Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Beijing, you will know what I mean. Chinese are building an empire and China does not have to worry how it will offer to its people and avoid democracy in a globalize world. China does not care what India think about it. Democracy is a relative term. India being the whole largest democracy is not doing any better than china. Singapore having a limited democracy is a good place to live. Even we talk about complete democracy there is only two main parties in US (either you are democratic or republic). Democracy has its own problems. “Be happy for India’s success and focus on your own problems my little chinamen.” Yes, I am happy about IndiaÂ’s success. But are they doing enough – actually I donÂ’t careÂ…because I have Indian blood.