Comments on: Asking for help isn’t easy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27576 RC Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:07:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27576 <blockquote>I am well aware of all the travails of IS in US.</blockquote> <p>That means this person has not been an international student. But how quick is the judgement without experiencing it first hand.</p> I am well aware of all the travails of IS in US.

That means this person has not been an international student. But how quick is the judgement without experiencing it first hand.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27575 Kush Tandon Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:04:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27575 <p>M. Nam</p> <p>"I thought that bleeding hearts(as you called yourself) were not supposed to be judgemental!?!"</p> <p>OK, Apologies. I should refrain from being judgemental. Point taken.</p> <p>Kush</p> M. Nam

“I thought that bleeding hearts(as you called yourself) were not supposed to be judgemental!?!”

OK, Apologies. I should refrain from being judgemental. Point taken.

Kush

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By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27569 MoorNam Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:05:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27569 <p>Kush,</p> <p>I am well aware of all the travails of IS in US.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><I>Lack of empathy is the first sign of autism.</I></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>I thought that bleeding hearts(as you called yourself) were not supposed to be judgemental!?!</p> <p>M. Nam</p> Kush,

I am well aware of all the travails of IS in US.

Lack of empathy is the first sign of autism.

I thought that bleeding hearts(as you called yourself) were not supposed to be judgemental!?!

M. Nam

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27548 Kush Tandon Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:17:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27548 <p>Corrrection:</p> <p>"Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial aid, you have to be a permanent resident, at least."</p> <p>shoud read as:</p> <p>Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial loan, you have to be a permanent resident, at least.</p> <p>There is a huge difference in loan, scholarship, and assistantship.</p> Corrrection:

“Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial aid, you have to be a permanent resident, at least.”

shoud read as:

Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial loan, you have to be a permanent resident, at least.

There is a huge difference in loan, scholarship, and assistantship.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27547 Kush Tandon Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:12:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27547 <p>MoorNam,</p> <p>Just asking........Where you ever an international student in USA? Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial aid, you have to be a permanent resident, at least.</p> <p>Walk into MIT, Caltech, Columbia, Cornell, and see how many are international graduate students - more than 50 %. Cornell needs international students as much they need Cornell, please get that right.</p> <p>Just curious.</p> <p>I do not agree even .01% with your reasoning but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Lack of empathy is the first sigh of autism.</p> <p>Kush</p> MoorNam,

Just asking……..Where you ever an international student in USA? Even with financial aid (scholarship, assistantship, etc.), it is not at all easy for international students, For financial aid, you have to be a permanent resident, at least.

Walk into MIT, Caltech, Columbia, Cornell, and see how many are international graduate students – more than 50 %. Cornell needs international students as much they need Cornell, please get that right.

Just curious.

I do not agree even .01% with your reasoning but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Lack of empathy is the first sigh of autism.

Kush

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By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27542 MoorNam Mon, 26 Sep 2005 23:00:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27542 <p>A typical non-rational, emotional argument in cases like this is: <i>What if this happened to you or someone dear to you? Don't you have any pity or empathy? How heartless can you be?</i></p> <p>I don't want to answer to this kind of emotional blackmail.</p> <p>There are many organisations helping these students. Many universities have offered to absorb NewOrleans students into their campuses(if they meet the criteria). America gives every immigrant a chance to make it big - <b>if you play by the rules.</b> Don't try to game the system. Pay your taxes. Be legal. The rules are quire simple.</p> <p>If the South Asian Network aids even one illegal student, it opens itself to scrutiny, lawsuits and possible imprisonment of its members.</p> <p>M. Nam</p> A typical non-rational, emotional argument in cases like this is: What if this happened to you or someone dear to you? Don’t you have any pity or empathy? How heartless can you be?

I don’t want to answer to this kind of emotional blackmail.

There are many organisations helping these students. Many universities have offered to absorb NewOrleans students into their campuses(if they meet the criteria). America gives every immigrant a chance to make it big – if you play by the rules. Don’t try to game the system. Pay your taxes. Be legal. The rules are quire simple.

If the South Asian Network aids even one illegal student, it opens itself to scrutiny, lawsuits and possible imprisonment of its members.

M. Nam

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By: Alamelu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27538 Alamelu Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:48:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27538 <p>i'd hate to pay more attention to moornam's comments than what they actually deserve, but i can't passively read such narrow-minded comments and keep quiet.</p> <p>do you mean to say that anyone who seeks assistance in their time of need (whether of their creation or otherwise) falls into the “pit of victimhood”? I would think that events such as katrina, rita, the tsunami, any kind of natural disaster would inspire compassion and humanity, and not judgemental intolerance.</p> <p>any university student who has to work to study and survive (irrespective of where s/he is from) deserves our sympathies and assistance after katrina and rita. but i can't even begin to imagine the confusion, frustration, and pure helplessness these international students must feel--especially given the governmental scrutiny that will invariably fall on them.</p> <p>why does it bother you so much that an organization out there recognizes their plight and chooses to do something about it? how does it affect you as long when nothing is asked of you except perhaps an ounce of decency and sympathy?</p> i’d hate to pay more attention to moornam’s comments than what they actually deserve, but i can’t passively read such narrow-minded comments and keep quiet.

do you mean to say that anyone who seeks assistance in their time of need (whether of their creation or otherwise) falls into the “pit of victimhood”? I would think that events such as katrina, rita, the tsunami, any kind of natural disaster would inspire compassion and humanity, and not judgemental intolerance.

any university student who has to work to study and survive (irrespective of where s/he is from) deserves our sympathies and assistance after katrina and rita. but i can’t even begin to imagine the confusion, frustration, and pure helplessness these international students must feel–especially given the governmental scrutiny that will invariably fall on them.

why does it bother you so much that an organization out there recognizes their plight and chooses to do something about it? how does it affect you as long when nothing is asked of you except perhaps an ounce of decency and sympathy?

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By: Ang http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27524 Ang Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:33:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27524 <blockquote>America does not need whiners who ask for a crutch as soon as there is harship. America needs winners.</blockquote> <p>The American Dream gives alot of people the impression that "you deserve what you get in life, and that <b>you can do anything</b> if you work hard and put your mind to it". Likewise, the belief that "if you don't succeed - and you fail, <b>you must have done something to deserve it</b>" is also held. This belief, while very inspiring, isn't always valid. And at times like these, such a belief makes people less empathetic or even compassionate. <i>How sad</i>.</p> America does not need whiners who ask for a crutch as soon as there is harship. America needs winners.

The American Dream gives alot of people the impression that “you deserve what you get in life, and that you can do anything if you work hard and put your mind to it”. Likewise, the belief that “if you don’t succeed – and you fail, you must have done something to deserve it” is also held. This belief, while very inspiring, isn’t always valid. And at times like these, such a belief makes people less empathetic or even compassionate. How sad.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27519 RC Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:06:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27519 <p>"give me your winners(yup, the winners), spare me from your losers, send me your able, keep your filthy disable .... "</p> <p>As I am a nasty bitch !!!</p> <p>(Thank god the real lady liberty is not that)</p> “give me your winners(yup, the winners), spare me from your losers, send me your able, keep your filthy disable …. “

As I am a nasty bitch !!!

(Thank god the real lady liberty is not that)

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By: timepass http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/24/asking_for_help/comment-page-1/#comment-27499 timepass Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:23:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2273#comment-27499 <p>Moornam, my thoughts exactly. NOT.</p> <p>Do you care to explain your half baked views, or would you rather be cute with that poorly written verse? Enjoy your non-H1B status and be glad you're at least getting a paycheck, bud.</p> Moornam, my thoughts exactly. NOT.

Do you care to explain your half baked views, or would you rather be cute with that poorly written verse? Enjoy your non-H1B status and be glad you’re at least getting a paycheck, bud.

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