Comments on: Washington monument http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chitchor http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-110765 Chitchor Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:24:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-110765 <p>I guess this is not warranted here, but just thought that I would make a 'clarion call' or rather a queston as to is this 'Moornam' character still alive and kicking or what, do not see any write up from him lately ?!!</p> I guess this is not warranted here, but just thought that I would make a ‘clarion call’ or rather a queston as to is this ‘Moornam’ character still alive and kicking or what, do not see any write up from him lately ?!!

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By: SALTAF supporter http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-46208 SALTAF supporter Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:33:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-46208 <p>Happened to stumble on this blog...Just wanted to reiterate that Lubna Naseem is a Muslim Indian and also I know first hand (as an organizer) that the Pakistani embassy refused to help with the festival. M Nam is truly ignorant.</p> Happened to stumble on this blog…Just wanted to reiterate that Lubna Naseem is a Muslim Indian and also I know first hand (as an organizer) that the Pakistani embassy refused to help with the festival. M Nam is truly ignorant.

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By: saltaf fan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-29284 saltaf fan Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:09:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-29284 <p>M. Nam,</p> <p>Whats funny about this entire discussion you sparked is your ASSumption that a muslim name (Lubna Naseem) denotes that she's a Pakistani.</p> <p>She is, in fact, an Indian who is a muslim, one of many that exist in this world. Nice ASSumption, mate. She and the rest of the volunteers worked their asses off and put on a great event. Everyone walked away culturally enriched. Maybe you did too and you hopefully learned in that time that there are Indians that are muslims as well as hindus.</p> M. Nam,

Whats funny about this entire discussion you sparked is your ASSumption that a muslim name (Lubna Naseem) denotes that she’s a Pakistani.

She is, in fact, an Indian who is a muslim, one of many that exist in this world. Nice ASSumption, mate. She and the rest of the volunteers worked their asses off and put on a great event. Everyone walked away culturally enriched. Maybe you did too and you hopefully learned in that time that there are Indians that are muslims as well as hindus.

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By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27102 Salil Maniktahla Fri, 23 Sep 2005 05:34:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27102 <p>And I tried to ignore Manish's offhand comment about "remarkably highbrow" NetSAP events, but I feel compelled to say something.</p> <p>A NetSAP event is only as high- or low-brow as the people involved in organizing it.</p> <p>I'd like to point out that not a lot of people bother to get involved in the organization, while quite a few seem willing to critique from the sidelines.</p> And I tried to ignore Manish’s offhand comment about “remarkably highbrow” NetSAP events, but I feel compelled to say something.

A NetSAP event is only as high- or low-brow as the people involved in organizing it.

I’d like to point out that not a lot of people bother to get involved in the organization, while quite a few seem willing to critique from the sidelines.

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By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27101 Salil Maniktahla Fri, 23 Sep 2005 05:27:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27101 <p>Good lord, people. I'm one of the organizers, and an ex-President of NetSAP, so I think I'm qualified to speak here.</p> <p>Timepass got it right. Get off the assumption bandwagon for just a minute and stop implying that the organizers have complete control over who sponsors the event. Money is hard to come by, and authors take convincing. We strive really hard to have a good mix, but people are people. One rather renknowned author with exactly one book under his belt asked for a rather hefty fee (to the tune of $7500...sorry, we're a non-profit, and we don't offer honoraria). Others have tight schedules, conflicting book tours, movie releases, protests, you name it. And the sponsors? We take money from anyone that can support us without conflicting with NetSAP's 501(c)3 status, and that means we get a lot of in-kind sponsorship, and not a lot of money.</p> <p>The event, by the way, costs upwards of $20,000 a year to put on. We strive to break even; if we ever make a profit, it's very modest (a few hundred dollars, at best) and it all goes back into the organization.</p> <p>Hopefully, this portrays a more accurate picture of how hard it is to organize. Lubna, Shalini, and the rest of the organizing committee do a fantastic job, spending many many many hours a week, and they never make a penny off any of it. Give them props, tell people about the event, but for heaven's sake, no bitching. We like keeping our morale up, ok?</p> Good lord, people. I’m one of the organizers, and an ex-President of NetSAP, so I think I’m qualified to speak here.

Timepass got it right. Get off the assumption bandwagon for just a minute and stop implying that the organizers have complete control over who sponsors the event. Money is hard to come by, and authors take convincing. We strive really hard to have a good mix, but people are people. One rather renknowned author with exactly one book under his belt asked for a rather hefty fee (to the tune of $7500…sorry, we’re a non-profit, and we don’t offer honoraria). Others have tight schedules, conflicting book tours, movie releases, protests, you name it. And the sponsors? We take money from anyone that can support us without conflicting with NetSAP’s 501(c)3 status, and that means we get a lot of in-kind sponsorship, and not a lot of money.

The event, by the way, costs upwards of $20,000 a year to put on. We strive to break even; if we ever make a profit, it’s very modest (a few hundred dollars, at best) and it all goes back into the organization.

Hopefully, this portrays a more accurate picture of how hard it is to organize. Lubna, Shalini, and the rest of the organizing committee do a fantastic job, spending many many many hours a week, and they never make a penny off any of it. Give them props, tell people about the event, but for heaven’s sake, no bitching. We like keeping our morale up, ok?

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By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27070 MoorNam Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:22:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27070 <p>Mark/Umair,</p> <p>You got me right.</p> <p>M. Nam</p> Mark/Umair,

You got me right.

M. Nam

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By: Campa~Cola http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27048 Campa~Cola Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:16:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27048 <p>Get that chip off your shoulder Ikram</p> Get that chip off your shoulder Ikram

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By: Mark IV http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27046 Mark IV Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:14:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27046 <p>Umair: To be honest, I had read Moornam's comment to be questioning why only or primarily Indian sponsors are on the "South Asian" bandwagon, i.e. where is the Pakistani and Bangladeshi commitment to a "South Asian" platform?</p> <p>I read it the same way. In fact, its a good question for all ardent "South Asianists"(and there are alot here). How much do Bangladeshis and Pakistanis contribute to "South Asian" institution-building? Do the Pakistani and Bangladeshi embassies co-sponsor such events?</p> <p>Would love to know.</p> Umair: To be honest, I had read Moornam’s comment to be questioning why only or primarily Indian sponsors are on the “South Asian” bandwagon, i.e. where is the Pakistani and Bangladeshi commitment to a “South Asian” platform?

I read it the same way. In fact, its a good question for all ardent “South Asianists”(and there are alot here). How much do Bangladeshis and Pakistanis contribute to “South Asian” institution-building? Do the Pakistani and Bangladeshi embassies co-sponsor such events?

Would love to know.

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By: Umair Muhajir http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27044 Umair Muhajir Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:54:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27044 <p>Ikram: "Moornam's not saying SALTAF is insufficiently South Asian, he's saying its too South Asian. He's suggesting that SALTAF is insufficiently Indian, and has to many damn Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, and thus the Indian sponsors are getting a "low ROI"."</p> <p>To be honest, I had read Moornam's comment to be questioning why only or primarily Indian sponsors are on the "South Asian" bandwagon, i.e. where is the Pakistani and Bangladeshi commitment to a "South Asian" platform? Perhaps I am wrong, and should just let Moornam explain...</p> Ikram: “Moornam’s not saying SALTAF is insufficiently South Asian, he’s saying its too South Asian. He’s suggesting that SALTAF is insufficiently Indian, and has to many damn Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, and thus the Indian sponsors are getting a “low ROI”.”

To be honest, I had read Moornam’s comment to be questioning why only or primarily Indian sponsors are on the “South Asian” bandwagon, i.e. where is the Pakistani and Bangladeshi commitment to a “South Asian” platform? Perhaps I am wrong, and should just let Moornam explain…

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By: Ikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/09/22/washington_monu/comment-page-1/#comment-27041 Ikram Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:35:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2262#comment-27041 <p>Apologies to Moornam -- Tata is inded an Indian sponsor. And a sellout against the hono(u)r of the proud Indian Nation by supporting a disproportionately Pakistani event.</p> <p>All of you Indian attendees must repent by -- I dunno, doing something really patriotic like watching Sunny Deol's 'Border'. American attendees must repent by refighting the war of 1812 -- maybe this time you'll win.</p> Apologies to Moornam — Tata is inded an Indian sponsor. And a sellout against the hono(u)r of the proud Indian Nation by supporting a disproportionately Pakistani event.

All of you Indian attendees must repent by — I dunno, doing something really patriotic like watching Sunny Deol’s ‘Border’. American attendees must repent by refighting the war of 1812 — maybe this time you’ll win.

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