Comments on: ‘Aishwarya Jones’ Diary’ http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: comment http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-69503 comment Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:13:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-69503 <p>i read on IMDB that ash the queen of mock chastity was annoying to a person who saw an early viewing. I guess pretty doesn't buy you talent.</p> i read on IMDB that ash the queen of mock chastity was annoying to a person who saw an early viewing. I guess pretty doesn’t buy you talent.

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By: technophobicgeek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-38360 technophobicgeek Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:12:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-38360 <p>I studied Korean martial arts for several years, and yes, they were attributed to India too (Bodhidharma etc). Read any good book on the Silk Route and it will be apparent how much interaction existed between ancient India and China. Amartya Sen's "The Argumentative Indian" (awesome book, btw) has an entire chapter dedicated to this. He highlights the fact that in ancient china, India was the only other country worth learning anything from, hence the scholarly traffic between the 2 countries. Once you read these stuff, the idea of martial arts spreading from India to China seems quite plausible.</p> <p>Chinese people are not known to be generally war-loving either, so the argument that MAs died out in India coz Indians are peaceful is cr*p. I agree there's not much of an exercise culture among Indian middle-class. But to say that Indians are not physical is simply dumb, given the amount of physical/manual labor that many many people simply have to perform to survive.</p> <p>I've always heard from my grandfather that the Brits destroyed a lot of local Indian MAs after the original SM (forms of stick and sword fighting etc) that were common in several parts of India, similar to the way they allegedly wiped out Indian competitors to their products (muslin, anyone?) Dunno the history behind this but it would be interesting!</p> <p>IMHO, the reason India was dominated by foreign powers is NOT that we were less war-like, but coz we were divided into small warring principalities.</p> <p>And bong-breaker, Olympic medals are not just a product of great talent, but a system that nurtures athletes, funding, attitudes and so on. Wait, didn't some Chinese win several track and field medals in the last Olympics??? The <b>110 meter hurdle sprint</b> in particular?? So much for your racial theory...</p> <p>Growing up in India, I can tell you that sports (other than cricket) was and still is not a great priority here. Other than a few intellectual circles, people rarely agonise over winning Olympic medals, it is seen as a "western" thing.</p> <p>I'm willing the bet a lot that this will change soon, and within 20 or so years you'll see a lot more Indian presence in world sport. Attitudes are changing here and more and more parents are willing to "risk" their children to a sporting career.</p> <p>Long post, sorry!</p> I studied Korean martial arts for several years, and yes, they were attributed to India too (Bodhidharma etc). Read any good book on the Silk Route and it will be apparent how much interaction existed between ancient India and China. Amartya Sen’s “The Argumentative Indian” (awesome book, btw) has an entire chapter dedicated to this. He highlights the fact that in ancient china, India was the only other country worth learning anything from, hence the scholarly traffic between the 2 countries. Once you read these stuff, the idea of martial arts spreading from India to China seems quite plausible.

Chinese people are not known to be generally war-loving either, so the argument that MAs died out in India coz Indians are peaceful is cr*p. I agree there’s not much of an exercise culture among Indian middle-class. But to say that Indians are not physical is simply dumb, given the amount of physical/manual labor that many many people simply have to perform to survive.

I’ve always heard from my grandfather that the Brits destroyed a lot of local Indian MAs after the original SM (forms of stick and sword fighting etc) that were common in several parts of India, similar to the way they allegedly wiped out Indian competitors to their products (muslin, anyone?) Dunno the history behind this but it would be interesting!

IMHO, the reason India was dominated by foreign powers is NOT that we were less war-like, but coz we were divided into small warring principalities.

And bong-breaker, Olympic medals are not just a product of great talent, but a system that nurtures athletes, funding, attitudes and so on. Wait, didn’t some Chinese win several track and field medals in the last Olympics??? The 110 meter hurdle sprint in particular?? So much for your racial theory…

Growing up in India, I can tell you that sports (other than cricket) was and still is not a great priority here. Other than a few intellectual circles, people rarely agonise over winning Olympic medals, it is seen as a “western” thing.

I’m willing the bet a lot that this will change soon, and within 20 or so years you’ll see a lot more Indian presence in world sport. Attitudes are changing here and more and more parents are willing to “risk” their children to a sporting career.

Long post, sorry!

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By: ham hock http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-28322 ham hock Sun, 02 Oct 2005 00:54:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-28322 <p>that's all interesting and such but where is apul?</p> that’s all interesting and such but where is apul?

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By: true-mesomorph http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23618 true-mesomorph Sat, 03 Sep 2005 09:01:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23618 <blockquote> many Punjabis put on muscle more easily than many other ethnicities</blockquote> <p>They also put on more fat than most. Gurinder Chadha is a very typical Punjabi girl. Putting and muscle and losing fat don't always go and in hand. Which is why you see so many guys (Punjabi or otherwise)with huge arms and huge bellys.</p> many Punjabis put on muscle more easily than many other ethnicities

They also put on more fat than most. Gurinder Chadha is a very typical Punjabi girl. Putting and muscle and losing fat don’t always go and in hand. Which is why you see so many guys (Punjabi or otherwise)with huge arms and huge bellys.

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By: Raju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23344 Raju Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:05:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23344 <p>and it annoys me when people say race is a factor in athletic prowess</p> and it annoys me when people say race is a factor in athletic prowess

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By: Raju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23343 Raju Fri, 02 Sep 2005 01:04:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23343 <p>I meant Jeremy Wariner</p> <p>"Jeremy Wariner is fast—and white.</p> <p>If the 20-year-old Baylor University junior wins the 400-meter gold as expected Monday night, he would be the first white American man to win a sprint medal since Mike Larabee’s 400 gold in 1964."</p> <p>Race is a made-up thing and you can't tell people's attributes by making them into a race</p> I meant Jeremy Wariner

“Jeremy Wariner is fast—and white.

If the 20-year-old Baylor University junior wins the 400-meter gold as expected Monday night, he would be the first white American man to win a sprint medal since Mike LarabeeÂ’s 400 gold in 1964.”

Race is a made-up thing and you can’t tell people’s attributes by making them into a race

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By: Bong Breaker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23276 Bong Breaker Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:51:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23276 <p>Raju I think I'm gonna call this one quits, cos I really don't know what you're trying to say. In terms of the world population, mixed race people are still in a minority. I really don't see what they (we) have to do with this. The reason I was talking about the Olympics and specifically running was because that is the purest expression of physical ability - along with weightlifting. Both involve technique, but they're much more about natural ability that baseball or cricket. Hence race plays a bigger part.</p> <p>Anyway, we'll leave it there. I do just want to say that I am not sizing anyone up by their race. But as someone who considered pursuing a career in athletics, I find the subject of genetic athletic ability interesting and am sometimes frustrated by political correctness obscuring debate.</p> <p>Oh and you think <a href="http://www.voice-online.net/content.php?show=7210&type=3">Justin Gatlin</a> is white? <a href="http://olerkiilerich.dk/ol/justin-gatlin.jpg">How do you figure?</a></p> <p>DesiDancer, Hrithik is a freak. That's why he's more cut and can dance (don't think I rate him as highly as you though!) Having three thumbs discounts you from any conventional classification. Why didn't they ever remove it? Because some Indians think it's lucky. Eesh. I like the wiki link ninjas; he would've been burnt at the stake in the past!</p> <p>In fact his polydactyly (http://www.leeds.ac.uk/handsurgery/EJHS/wend.htm) is often associated with other chromosomal problems. Having an extra pinky is common, but a split thumb is sometimes bad news.</p> Raju I think I’m gonna call this one quits, cos I really don’t know what you’re trying to say. In terms of the world population, mixed race people are still in a minority. I really don’t see what they (we) have to do with this. The reason I was talking about the Olympics and specifically running was because that is the purest expression of physical ability – along with weightlifting. Both involve technique, but they’re much more about natural ability that baseball or cricket. Hence race plays a bigger part.

Anyway, we’ll leave it there. I do just want to say that I am not sizing anyone up by their race. But as someone who considered pursuing a career in athletics, I find the subject of genetic athletic ability interesting and am sometimes frustrated by political correctness obscuring debate.

Oh and you think Justin Gatlin is white? How do you figure?

DesiDancer, Hrithik is a freak. That’s why he’s more cut and can dance (don’t think I rate him as highly as you though!) Having three thumbs discounts you from any conventional classification. Why didn’t they ever remove it? Because some Indians think it’s lucky. Eesh. I like the wiki link ninjas; he would’ve been burnt at the stake in the past!

In fact his polydactyly (http://www.leeds.ac.uk/handsurgery/EJHS/wend.htm) is often associated with other chromosomal problems. Having an extra pinky is common, but a split thumb is sometimes bad news.

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23273 DesiDancer Thu, 01 Sep 2005 17:35:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23273 <p>Ninja, that's creepy! in a fascinating way, though.</p> <p>the extra thumb contains a secret potion, which when consumed, gives one super dance abilities. Does MJ have an extra thumb?</p> Ninja, that’s creepy! in a fascinating way, though.

the extra thumb contains a secret potion, which when consumed, gives one super dance abilities. Does MJ have an extra thumb?

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By: ninjas in saris http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23269 ninjas in saris Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:49:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23269 <p>Yeah, I saw it on your link when I'd studied it more closely. I was initially looking through the photos for an extra FINGER (like, another pinky, perhaps) not a whack thumb. ;)</p> <p>Check out these <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyl" target="_new">x-rays of polydactyls</a>, though!</p> <p>Boy, how did we get from Aishwarya to muscular Punjabis to people with too many digits? ;)</p> Yeah, I saw it on your link when I’d studied it more closely. I was initially looking through the photos for an extra FINGER (like, another pinky, perhaps) not a whack thumb. ;)

Check out these x-rays of polydactyls, though!

Boy, how did we get from Aishwarya to muscular Punjabis to people with too many digits? ;)

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/29/when_brides_col/comment-page-2/#comment-23268 DesiDancer Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:35:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2121#comment-23268 <p>dear ninja, it's right in that first link, where HR is flexxing and pouting. Look at his hand, on the left side of your screen, and there it is in all its freakishness!! Twin thumbs! Twin thumbs! aaaagh, the madness!</p> <p>Actually, that's terrible to say; I read an interview where HR was saying that as a child, all the other kids didn't want to play with him because of his freaky thumbs :( Poor little guy.</p> dear ninja, it’s right in that first link, where HR is flexxing and pouting. Look at his hand, on the left side of your screen, and there it is in all its freakishness!! Twin thumbs! Twin thumbs! aaaagh, the madness!

Actually, that’s terrible to say; I read an interview where HR was saying that as a child, all the other kids didn’t want to play with him because of his freaky thumbs :( Poor little guy.

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