The difference between browns of various hues (is that a pun?) is well known in the US of A

Riiiiight. As opposed to the chromatically challenged UK where brown equals Paki.

If the British gangster movie “Layer Cake” was based in the US, the brown character would have been referred to as a “slimy North Indian member of the Khalsa order” (instead of a “slimy Paki raghead”), right?

I do agree with you that uber-nationalist views tend be more prevalent among the upper middle class. Their economic class does not surprise me. I am shocked by the views they hold; even after the “education” they’ve received.

No you got it wrong. I am not saying that a ethinic group should take responsibility of the crime commited by some from the same ethnicity. The group didnt elect these guys and hence isnt responsible for their action. But if you elect goverenments which for a long period(say more than 25 yrs) support terrorism, And you never ever protest against it, Then i do feel some responsibility lie at your door. I hope i am making myself clear enough here. This place is filled with brown bigots who cant get another point of view and will resort to name calling.

I would disagree with tef’s suggestion that one would expect the better educated to have more enlightened views. This presupposes that the LESS-well educated/elite may in any case be expected to have fascistic views. But in fact the opposite is the case: the modernist manias for order, efficiency, and national greatness (conceptualized as a kind of uber-manhood) at any cost are in fact the sorts of views that have often, not just in India, attracted people from the educated classes who are materially better off than most of the population. This was true of post-World War I European fascist movements too (the intellectual backbone for these was quite educated and accomplished; the shocktroops of course were not); this was true of India during Indira Gandhi’s Emergency too (one is far more likely to find “educated” people justifying Sanjay Gandhi’s excesses during the priod than “uneducated” people; and let’s not forget the bulk of the opposition to the Emergency came from India’s great unwashed, NOT from its professional and bureaucratic and industrial classes who were only too happy to have trains run on time, strikes banned, unions smashed, slums cleared, and uneducated people sterilized). From my own travels in Pakistan (on a different but not entirely unrelated note), I find it interesting that the most pro-military rule people I meet tend to be the well-heeled; their drivers, gardeners, and cleaners tend to prefer this or that political party (even though the standard justification for military rule in Pakistan is that the elected politicians have improverished the people, who are apparently too stupid to know better).

No, it was not.

Understand that the indian history books label Hilter as a plain Bad Guy. Period. They do not delve into any detail on the atrocities commited by him, or the sufferings of the Jewish community, as is dont so by text books in the west. As a result the Hitler reference is more synonomous with that of a dictator (which some Indians feel India needs) then any sort of support for any of his attrocities.

I am not sure if that remark about “indian patriots” was meant for me. But if it was here is my reponse.

I care about Pakistan. You know seeing how we are all South Asian and all.

Seriously, I would like to see Pakistan do better. And India too. For the record the fascist views of “elite” students in India are very worrying. You would think they would have more enlightened views.