Comments on: The Markhor stands proud http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22839 DesiDancer Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:39:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22839 <blockquote>Those aren't horns, those are pasta. Or maybe spirulina.</blockquote> <p>or maybe a 3-D model to supplement razib's latest scientific findings... the horns resemble a double helix, to me :)</p> Those aren’t horns, those are pasta. Or maybe spirulina.

or maybe a 3-D model to supplement razib’s latest scientific findings… the horns resemble a double helix, to me :)

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By: ms http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22659 ms Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:52:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22659 <blockquote> Imagine eating that goat. Mmmm...endangered mutton. </blockquote> <p>With your <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/002030.html#comment20589">eating prowess</a> I am sure, you can swallow down a whole goat - horns and all. :)</p> <p>I bow before thee, O bottomless pit!</p> Imagine eating that goat. Mmmm…endangered mutton.

With your eating prowess I am sure, you can swallow down a whole goat – horns and all. :)

I bow before thee, O bottomless pit!

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By: Bong Breaker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22650 Bong Breaker Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:02:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22650 <p>Wow. Big goat. I'm very happy to hear that wildlife is doing well and the goat is on the up, I'm very pro-wildlife. Very.</p> <p>Imagine eating that goat. Mmmm...endangered mutton.</p> Wow. Big goat. I’m very happy to hear that wildlife is doing well and the goat is on the up, I’m very pro-wildlife. Very.

Imagine eating that goat. Mmmm…endangered mutton.

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By: Christopher John http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22636 Christopher John Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:25:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22636 <p>Your wish for horns, sexual prowess and (perhaps) a goaty nature was anticipated by the Greeks in the God Pan.</p> <p>Arcadia, the scene of Pan's "movements" was/is both an actual locale of rustic, simple peace and an imagined utopia.</p> <p>It occurs to me that the topographies of Arcadia and Kashmir must share similarities in that they provide suitable habitats for goat populations. There seems to be a thread/theme here: Arcadia as a synonynm for peace, the situation in Kashmir, and goats.</p> <p>In any case your blog reminded me of Gary Wills article, "The Real Arcadia", the lead essay in the summer 1998 <b>American Scholar</b>.</p> <p>I pulled it off the shelf (this is why I keep these things around)and skimmed through it. Here are two quotes:</p> <blockquote>What I found this first evening while walking I would afterward experience whenever I drove the rough little back roads of Arcadia: one must be prepared, early and late in the day, to wait for sheep or goats to get where they are going. On the very next morning, while stopped behind a bickering flow of horned billies and and hornless kids, I glanced to the right, into the low sun of morning, and felt my heart stop a second as Pan himself returned my gaze. A careful second look reminded me of something I once knew but had long forgotten-that goats can stand on their hind feet, like dogs. But they have a higher, slimmer profile when they do. What I had seen was a kid on its hind legs slowly pawing a branch as it grazed its buds. This trick of turning biped, along with the sly look some goats contrive at times, no doubt contributed to a vivid apprehension of Pan's nearness in the Arcadian cult. In the iconography of the god, he is often shown as "spying Pan," turning a quick intense glance on the viewer, lifting at times a hand (or hoof) to shade his eyes from the bright sun. He has the sprightliness of his half-goat nature. The <i>Homeric Hymn to Pan </i>called him Quick on the cliffs where scampering goats are seen.</blockquote> <p>There is no doubt about Pan's "talent". Here's another short paragraph:</p> <blockquote>Pan was no Disney creature frisking about. He was majestic in his willfulness, slyness, and anger. One of his cult titles was Goatboy-Penetrator Pan - a title illustrated on a famous vase now in the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, where Pan swoops after a goatherd preceded by several feet of his own phallus.</blockquote> Your wish for horns, sexual prowess and (perhaps) a goaty nature was anticipated by the Greeks in the God Pan.

Arcadia, the scene of Pan’s “movements” was/is both an actual locale of rustic, simple peace and an imagined utopia.

It occurs to me that the topographies of Arcadia and Kashmir must share similarities in that they provide suitable habitats for goat populations. There seems to be a thread/theme here: Arcadia as a synonynm for peace, the situation in Kashmir, and goats.

In any case your blog reminded me of Gary Wills article, “The Real Arcadia”, the lead essay in the summer 1998 American Scholar.

I pulled it off the shelf (this is why I keep these things around)and skimmed through it. Here are two quotes:

What I found this first evening while walking I would afterward experience whenever I drove the rough little back roads of Arcadia: one must be prepared, early and late in the day, to wait for sheep or goats to get where they are going. On the very next morning, while stopped behind a bickering flow of horned billies and and hornless kids, I glanced to the right, into the low sun of morning, and felt my heart stop a second as Pan himself returned my gaze. A careful second look reminded me of something I once knew but had long forgotten-that goats can stand on their hind feet, like dogs. But they have a higher, slimmer profile when they do. What I had seen was a kid on its hind legs slowly pawing a branch as it grazed its buds. This trick of turning biped, along with the sly look some goats contrive at times, no doubt contributed to a vivid apprehension of Pan’s nearness in the Arcadian cult. In the iconography of the god, he is often shown as “spying Pan,” turning a quick intense glance on the viewer, lifting at times a hand (or hoof) to shade his eyes from the bright sun. He has the sprightliness of his half-goat nature. The Homeric Hymn to Pan called him Quick on the cliffs where scampering goats are seen.

There is no doubt about Pan’s “talent”. Here’s another short paragraph:

Pan was no Disney creature frisking about. He was majestic in his willfulness, slyness, and anger. One of his cult titles was Goatboy-Penetrator Pan – a title illustrated on a famous vase now in the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, where Pan swoops after a goatherd preceded by several feet of his own phallus.
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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22627 Manish Vij Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:59:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22627 <p>Y'all have got to <a href="http://www.wildsheep.org/sheep/images_capra/bukharan_markhor.jpg">check out the horns</a> on <a href="http://www.mbogo.net/images/asiaMarkhor.jpg">these</a> <a href="http://www.phasianus.homestead.com/files/Kashmir_Markhor.jpg">specimens</a>.</p> <p>Those aren't horns, those are pasta. Or maybe <a href="http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/spirulina.jpg">spirulina</a>.</p> Y’all have got to check out the horns on these specimens.

Those aren’t horns, those are pasta. Or maybe spirulina.

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22621 Saheli Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:32:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22621 <p>I demand Sepia Mutiny T-shirts with that picture of the goat and that caption.</p> I demand Sepia Mutiny T-shirts with that picture of the goat and that caption.

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By: ms http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22619 ms Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:20:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22619 <p><b>Even if</b> peace reigns, poaching should finish off what remains I suppose.</p> <p>Going to Munnar I recall seeing the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilgiri_tahr">Nilgiri tahr</a>(<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/mv7.htm">1</a>,<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/mv10.htm">2</a>,<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/mv5.htm">3</a>) which although not as impressive as the Markhor, did give new meaning to the phrase "as sure-footed as a mountain goat"(<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/p2.htm">1</a>,<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/mv2.htm">2</a>,<a href="http://www.tahrfoundation.org/html/mv3.htm">3</a>).</p> Even if peace reigns, poaching should finish off what remains I suppose.

Going to Munnar I recall seeing the Nilgiri tahr(1,2,3) which although not as impressive as the Markhor, did give new meaning to the phrase “as sure-footed as a mountain goat”(1,2,3).

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22610 cicatrix Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:01:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22610 <blockquote>The markhor, a mountain goat that stands almost 6ft tall at the shoulder</blockquote> <p><I>That's</I> a goat?! A six foot tall <I>goat</I>? I mean, I accept the fact that India is bigger (overbearingly) than the rest of its piddly South Asian neighbours...but I didn't know its goats felt that way too...</p> The markhor, a mountain goat that stands almost 6ft tall at the shoulder

That’s a goat?! A six foot tall goat? I mean, I accept the fact that India is bigger (overbearingly) than the rest of its piddly South Asian neighbours…but I didn’t know its goats felt that way too…

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22605 Abhi Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:47:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22605 <blockquote>the Indian army found 35 small herds - 155 goats - thriving near the Line of Control</blockquote> <p>I just did the math and that comes out to 4.4 goats a "herd." Maybe they should have said 35 "families."</p> the Indian army found 35 small herds – 155 goats – thriving near the Line of Control

I just did the math and that comes out to 4.4 goats a “herd.” Maybe they should have said 35 “families.”

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By: Babloo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/26/the_markhor_sta/comment-page-1/#comment-22601 Babloo Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:23:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=2110#comment-22601 <p>Hey, can't help it babe. I am too horny</p> Hey, can’t help it babe. I am too horny

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