Comments on: Bollywood Delusions: Race vs. Language http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sotorgata http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-258789 Sotorgata Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:55:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-258789 <p>http://rxdrugs24x7.com/category/anti-depressants.html zoloft com [url=http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/1605/thread/765cdeed-6ac9-49ab-a551-def5427da123]mineral resource of south carolina map [/url]</p> http://rxdrugs24x7.com/category/anti-depressants.html zoloft com [url=http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/1605/thread/765cdeed-6ac9-49ab-a551-def5427da123]mineral resource of south carolina map [/url]

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By: Star http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-231103 Star Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:43:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-231103 <p>I ve read in an online article that some famous indian actress is using this <a href="http://www.theswisscare.com">SW+SS skin whitening soap</a> because she had trouble finding work in bollywood. I ll try and find that article. It was really intersting.</p> I ve read in an online article that some famous indian actress is using this SW+SS skin whitening soap because she had trouble finding work in bollywood. I ll try and find that article. It was really intersting.

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By: lubp http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-170335 lubp Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:13:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-170335 <p>wow! there are people like me! yeas i think it's bs that in bollywood everyone is soooo WHITE looking....even more they frekin act like soo glamarous and hollywood type. with all the shimiring costumes and big houses and everyone in the movie is like a freking perfect looking white colored person... pisses me off..thats not what indians are like. stupid indian cinema!</p> wow! there are people like me! yeas i think it’s bs that in bollywood everyone is soooo WHITE looking….even more they frekin act like soo glamarous and hollywood type. with all the shimiring costumes and big houses and everyone in the movie is like a freking perfect looking white colored person… pisses me off..thats not what indians are like. stupid indian cinema!

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By: rahul sachdeva http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-144787 rahul sachdeva Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:10:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-144787 <p>she is very beautiful girl in the world.and good actress.</p> she is very beautiful girl in the world.and good actress.

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By: google http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-56807 google Sun, 23 Apr 2006 07:26:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-56807 <p>Ash's skin color has been changing over the years. What has she been doing?</p> Ash’s skin color has been changing over the years. What has she been doing?

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By: goodday http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-36090 goodday Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:55:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-36090 <p>Interesting topic. I didn't read the entire post but vurdlife thinks there aren't blonde desis. Half of my mother's side of family has light brown hair. I used to in a school with a girl with blonde hair (her entire family was blonde) and there were also two sisters with red (i mean flaming red) hair and freckles. And one of my cousion's gave birth to a girl with blue eyes two years ago. These genetic traits are not common at all. But it is my observation that people who have these traits tend to have history of such traits on both sides of their families. A great place to find such traits is to go into punjabi villages and you will find many traits that we generally associate with western beauty. But, it is understandable that to someone living abroad this might come of as a surprise. Indians make up a very small proportion of population in Europe/America so it is hard to find such variations on day to day basis. I also know too many Indians in the west who try to pass themselves as non-indians because of their genetic makeup. In this age of hair colors/extensions, tinted contact lens etc who knows who is fake or real. You will also find people purposely seaking accented hindi/punjabi.</p> Interesting topic. I didn’t read the entire post but vurdlife thinks there aren’t blonde desis. Half of my mother’s side of family has light brown hair. I used to in a school with a girl with blonde hair (her entire family was blonde) and there were also two sisters with red (i mean flaming red) hair and freckles. And one of my cousion’s gave birth to a girl with blue eyes two years ago. These genetic traits are not common at all. But it is my observation that people who have these traits tend to have history of such traits on both sides of their families. A great place to find such traits is to go into punjabi villages and you will find many traits that we generally associate with western beauty. But, it is understandable that to someone living abroad this might come of as a surprise. Indians make up a very small proportion of population in Europe/America so it is hard to find such variations on day to day basis. I also know too many Indians in the west who try to pass themselves as non-indians because of their genetic makeup. In this age of hair colors/extensions, tinted contact lens etc who knows who is fake or real. You will also find people purposely seaking accented hindi/punjabi.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-29889 RC Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:07:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-29889 <p>Meenakshi, You tried to contradict me but gave links of all the WRONG Kunal Kapoors. (I know 2 other Kunal Kapoors, who dont look anywhere near like any film leading men :-) )</p> <p>I was talking about Karan Kapoor, who is Shashi Kapoor's younger son. Kunal Kapoor did have a semi-hit movie.</p> <p>anyway its too late to debate it now</p> Meenakshi, You tried to contradict me but gave links of all the WRONG Kunal Kapoors. (I know 2 other Kunal Kapoors, who dont look anywhere near like any film leading men :-) )

I was talking about Karan Kapoor, who is Shashi Kapoor’s younger son. Kunal Kapoor did have a semi-hit movie.

anyway its too late to debate it now

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By: Sasha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-28455 Sasha Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:53:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-28455 <p>hello people....i'm sasha. I'm in 8th grade and I live in Seattle. My mother is Hispanic..French..n English. My dad is Black..n Indian. I love bollywood. But don't u notice that all the bollywood actresses are light skined like Aishwarya. I luv all the girls...don't get me wrong and Ash is goregous but your average indian girl is not light like that. Indian people aren't white. They need to stay in the culture and put your authentic indian girls in there. They also always have white girls as the dancers in the films sometimes. If i wanted to see white girls...i can just watch American tv. So bollywood needs stay in their culture n put the beautiful brown gurls in their. <em>BROWN PRYDE</em></p> hello people….i’m sasha. I’m in 8th grade and I live in Seattle. My mother is Hispanic..French..n English. My dad is Black..n Indian. I love bollywood. But don’t u notice that all the bollywood actresses are light skined like Aishwarya. I luv all the girls…don’t get me wrong and Ash is goregous but your average indian girl is not light like that. Indian people aren’t white. They need to stay in the culture and put your authentic indian girls in there. They also always have white girls as the dancers in the films sometimes. If i wanted to see white girls…i can just watch American tv. So bollywood needs stay in their culture n put the beautiful brown gurls in their. BROWN PRYDE

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By: Meenakshee http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-20901 Meenakshee Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:55:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-20901 <p>ABOUT KUNAL KAPOOR:</p> <p>To contradict "RC on August 2, 2005 12:11 PM " Kunal doesn't look 'too white for movies' and doesn't have blonde hair from what I've seen on the web: http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2004/feb/27sld1.htm and he does have roles in Hindi movies http://www.apunkachoice.com/people/act599/ He's married to another Bollywood Royal Family http://www.junglee.org.in/kunal.html</p> <p>As far as race vs. language first off, the profession of acting is considered a very bad thing to do socially, and the people drawn to it were marginalized anyway. Bollywood has an excess of actors who are muslim, parsee, Anglo-Indian, and even Jewish (Pramila, Bollywood actress, first Miss India other Bollywood actors include: Helen, David, Nadira & Sulochawa)http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-asian-jews</p> <p>The "paleness" came easily - people who went into making films for lack of other options happened to be pale. Yes, paleness is idealized because pale people stay pale when they don't work in the hot sun all day (in China same fondness for palour, and small feet!). Of course there is a prejudice factor too but other things come into play as well.</p> <p>Accents: in Britain a proper theatre accent for serious roles (e.g. educated) and the regional strong accents for comic roles. Standard. It's not INDIA that makes these rules it is the profession of theatre. A lot of Tamil actors (Kamal Hassan most notibly) are excellent but have 'Tamil accented Hindi' and the audience won't accept it - so Kamal's Bombay exploits were flops.... and you wonder why they dub? In the west same thing: the silent films went to talkies from the 1920's onwards, and many many actors careers crashed to a halt (or lived briefly through dubs then crashed). VOICE is a huge part of the experience of fantasy for these characters, serious, melodious 'perfect' Hindi goes with being 'perfect' looking - the audience wants it. We know that from Kamal Hassan and other Southern Actors who failed to thrive in the North. The only exception is if the accent itself is in demand, as were French accents in the 1930's and 40's in Hollywood for Romantic leads.</p> ABOUT KUNAL KAPOOR:

To contradict “RC on August 2, 2005 12:11 PM ” Kunal doesn’t look ‘too white for movies’ and doesn’t have blonde hair from what I’ve seen on the web: http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2004/feb/27sld1.htm and he does have roles in Hindi movies http://www.apunkachoice.com/people/act599/ He’s married to another Bollywood Royal Family http://www.junglee.org.in/kunal.html

As far as race vs. language first off, the profession of acting is considered a very bad thing to do socially, and the people drawn to it were marginalized anyway. Bollywood has an excess of actors who are muslim, parsee, Anglo-Indian, and even Jewish (Pramila, Bollywood actress, first Miss India other Bollywood actors include: Helen, David, Nadira & Sulochawa)http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-asian-jews

The “paleness” came easily – people who went into making films for lack of other options happened to be pale. Yes, paleness is idealized because pale people stay pale when they don’t work in the hot sun all day (in China same fondness for palour, and small feet!). Of course there is a prejudice factor too but other things come into play as well.

Accents: in Britain a proper theatre accent for serious roles (e.g. educated) and the regional strong accents for comic roles. Standard. It’s not INDIA that makes these rules it is the profession of theatre. A lot of Tamil actors (Kamal Hassan most notibly) are excellent but have ‘Tamil accented Hindi’ and the audience won’t accept it – so Kamal’s Bombay exploits were flops…. and you wonder why they dub? In the west same thing: the silent films went to talkies from the 1920′s onwards, and many many actors careers crashed to a halt (or lived briefly through dubs then crashed). VOICE is a huge part of the experience of fantasy for these characters, serious, melodious ‘perfect’ Hindi goes with being ‘perfect’ looking – the audience wants it. We know that from Kamal Hassan and other Southern Actors who failed to thrive in the North. The only exception is if the accent itself is in demand, as were French accents in the 1930′s and 40′s in Hollywood for Romantic leads.

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By: Olinda http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/08/02/bollywod_delusi/comment-page-2/#comment-19400 Olinda Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:26:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1945#comment-19400 <p>On Deepa's "Lagaan" example to the comment that not many Indians want to sit through movies about people toiling in the fields...I don't think Lagaan really qualifies. Those peasants slaving away under the relentless sun were still quite prettified, in a <i>Milagro Beanfield War </i>kind of way, much as those in Swadesh were.</p> <p>On the subject of perceptions, and misperceptions, of the U.S. and "The West" in general, in Swadesh when Shahrukh Khan's character is invited to some village event and one of the elders says "People in America have no culture", I thought to myself "Here we go again", but I was suprised to hear SRK's character say "No, that's not true, they have their own culture too, etc etc".</p> On Deepa’s “Lagaan” example to the comment that not many Indians want to sit through movies about people toiling in the fields…I don’t think Lagaan really qualifies. Those peasants slaving away under the relentless sun were still quite prettified, in a Milagro Beanfield War kind of way, much as those in Swadesh were.

On the subject of perceptions, and misperceptions, of the U.S. and “The West” in general, in Swadesh when Shahrukh Khan’s character is invited to some village event and one of the elders says “People in America have no culture”, I thought to myself “Here we go again”, but I was suprised to hear SRK’s character say “No, that’s not true, they have their own culture too, etc etc”.

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