Comments on: Tinted Tilly http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Al Mujahid http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17900 Al Mujahid Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:21:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17900 <p>There is RSS in Jersey ?</p> There is RSS in Jersey ?

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By: Punjabi Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17896 Punjabi Boy Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:19:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17896 <p>tef</p> <p>Peace.</p> tef

Peace.

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By: sd http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17889 sd Thu, 28 Jul 2005 05:44:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17889 <p><em>the Tamil diaspora funds the conflict</em></p> <p>Which doesn't necessarily mean those living in Sri Lanka are simply pawns of the diasporic political-machine--the LTTE has in-country supporters.</p> <p>I think its important to note that the kidnapping of children did not occur when the Tigers first came together. In other words, saying the Tigers did not have enough recruits and thereby, support, should be prefaced by a timeline that shows the kidnappings as occurring only after the group's political and moral objectives became unclear and the war more desperate--kidnappings are not part of the ideology upon which the Tigers are founded and to imply otherwise is wrong.</p> <p>I also think it's important to not draw such a direct line between the Tigers and Al Qaeda (many other "legitimate" forces also use explosive devices similar to what was used on the USS COLE), because the two are fundamentally different in their goals. Similarly, when drawing a connection with the PLO, it makes the whole "Tigers-as-terrorists"-argument cloudy, because Israel and the U.S. are currently working with them, not against them, to find an answer to their demands.</p> <p>Anyhow, I know you're just paraphrasing and, we've been through this argument many times. I guess my point is that it's too bad all groups (IRA, PLO, Tigers, U.K., Israel, Sri Lanka, etc.) have caused a legitimate concern to be downgraded to simple terrorism and brutality. The origins, the reasons for conflict are still valid: people are dying, starving, losing.</p> the Tamil diaspora funds the conflict

Which doesn’t necessarily mean those living in Sri Lanka are simply pawns of the diasporic political-machine–the LTTE has in-country supporters.

I think its important to note that the kidnapping of children did not occur when the Tigers first came together. In other words, saying the Tigers did not have enough recruits and thereby, support, should be prefaced by a timeline that shows the kidnappings as occurring only after the group’s political and moral objectives became unclear and the war more desperate–kidnappings are not part of the ideology upon which the Tigers are founded and to imply otherwise is wrong.

I also think it’s important to not draw such a direct line between the Tigers and Al Qaeda (many other “legitimate” forces also use explosive devices similar to what was used on the USS COLE), because the two are fundamentally different in their goals. Similarly, when drawing a connection with the PLO, it makes the whole “Tigers-as-terrorists”-argument cloudy, because Israel and the U.S. are currently working with them, not against them, to find an answer to their demands.

Anyhow, I know you’re just paraphrasing and, we’ve been through this argument many times. I guess my point is that it’s too bad all groups (IRA, PLO, Tigers, U.K., Israel, Sri Lanka, etc.) have caused a legitimate concern to be downgraded to simple terrorism and brutality. The origins, the reasons for conflict are still valid: people are dying, starving, losing.

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By: Maya Means Illusion http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17876 Maya Means Illusion Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:52:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17876 <p><i>because i know you all care a lot about this, i inform you that diplo and m.i.a. are still an item, at least per an interview he gave pitchfork media at their oh-so-hip music festival a few days ago.</i></p> <p>You never know She could be earnin' her man Learnin' her man And at the same time Burnin' her man</p> because i know you all care a lot about this, i inform you that diplo and m.i.a. are still an item, at least per an interview he gave pitchfork media at their oh-so-hip music festival a few days ago.

You never know She could be earnin’ her man Learnin’ her man And at the same time Burnin’ her man

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By: tef http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17875 tef Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:36:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17875 <p>Punjabi boy,</p> <p>Perhaps I ought to have been clearer. The first word in the quote is "undouchablity"(sic)</p> <p>I just thought it was funny and shows that they are neanderthals.</p> <p>Anyway, I do not want to defend the RSS.</p> Punjabi boy,

Perhaps I ought to have been clearer. The first word in the quote is “undouchablity”(sic)

I just thought it was funny and shows that they are neanderthals.

Anyway, I do not want to defend the RSS.

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By: Punjabi Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17873 Punjabi Boy Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:17:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17873 <p>Yeah, so what? Who cares what they say about 'untouchables'? They still burn Muslims and carry out pogroms and persecute people in the name of their ideology - but because they dont fit the criteria of conventional terrorists they dont get called terrorists - but guess what? I reckon they are like terrorists - because they have terrorised through mass murder.</p> Yeah, so what? Who cares what they say about ‘untouchables’? They still burn Muslims and carry out pogroms and persecute people in the name of their ideology – but because they dont fit the criteria of conventional terrorists they dont get called terrorists – but guess what? I reckon they are like terrorists – because they have terrorised through mass murder.

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By: tef http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17871 tef Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:02:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17871 <p>I am fine with you calling them fascists. I am sure the RSS is fine with that too. They might even be proud of that categorization.</p> <p>So I go to the RSS website to see what their goals and aims are; and I see this on their main page:</p> <p>"Undouchablity' is a branch of casteism; until casteism is wiped out untouchabilityÂ’ will not go"</p> I am fine with you calling them fascists. I am sure the RSS is fine with that too. They might even be proud of that categorization.

So I go to the RSS website to see what their goals and aims are; and I see this on their main page:

“Undouchablity’ is a branch of casteism; until casteism is wiped out untouchabilityÂ’ will not go”

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By: Punjabi Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17863 Punjabi Boy Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:28:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17863 <blockquote>I believe the last prime minister was a member of the RSS. (Not sure) I do not think he was a terrorist. </blockquote> <p>I dont know if VeggiPie was a member of the RSS -doesnt make any difference to them being, you know, fascists.</p> I believe the last prime minister was a member of the RSS. (Not sure) I do not think he was a terrorist.

I dont know if VeggiPie was a member of the RSS -doesnt make any difference to them being, you know, fascists.

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17852 cicatrix Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:34:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17852 <p>fuck. one post, and you've done gun covered everything I ever talk about Manish. Including Deis Tigrona. I thought I'd cornered the market on this shit ;)</p> <p>It's good to see. I've said the same damn thing about grievances, Tamils benefitting under the British, expat support, etcetera etcetera etcetera for so damn long.. only to have the same arguments with rabid Tigertots who say I'm spouting Sinhala propaganda. Can't wait to read the articles. Maybe this will makes more sense that I have.</p> <p>I do disagree with the guy who said</p> <blockquote>Sri Lankans have an insufficient sense of nationality and are primarily loyal to their own ethnic group.</blockquote> <p>It's an odd generalization to make. Perhaps now, after 30 years of this, with so much misinformation (it's amazing how the LTTE gained power and dissemenates its message abroad so effectively)..well, yeah, NOW people are mistrustful. But it didn't used to be that way. When all this started, esp in '83, so many sinhalese were shocked and horrified and hid Tamils in their houses. The '83 violence was carried out by ignorant thugs. And I've heard rumors that a core group was paid by a Sinhala politician to foment things up a bit to get a more Sinhala-sided platform through. Then more street thugs decided to join, setting cars, buildings and people alight..and total choas reigned as nobody could figure out what the hell was goin on, and the kind of homicidal fuckwad who pulled wings off insects ruled the streets for three days.</p> <p>er, as I was saying, great post!</p> fuck. one post, and you’ve done gun covered everything I ever talk about Manish. Including Deis Tigrona. I thought I’d cornered the market on this shit ;)

It’s good to see. I’ve said the same damn thing about grievances, Tamils benefitting under the British, expat support, etcetera etcetera etcetera for so damn long.. only to have the same arguments with rabid Tigertots who say I’m spouting Sinhala propaganda. Can’t wait to read the articles. Maybe this will makes more sense that I have.

I do disagree with the guy who said

Sri Lankans have an insufficient sense of nationality and are primarily loyal to their own ethnic group.

It’s an odd generalization to make. Perhaps now, after 30 years of this, with so much misinformation (it’s amazing how the LTTE gained power and dissemenates its message abroad so effectively)..well, yeah, NOW people are mistrustful. But it didn’t used to be that way. When all this started, esp in ’83, so many sinhalese were shocked and horrified and hid Tamils in their houses. The ’83 violence was carried out by ignorant thugs. And I’ve heard rumors that a core group was paid by a Sinhala politician to foment things up a bit to get a more Sinhala-sided platform through. Then more street thugs decided to join, setting cars, buildings and people alight..and total choas reigned as nobody could figure out what the hell was goin on, and the kind of homicidal fuckwad who pulled wings off insects ruled the streets for three days.

er, as I was saying, great post!

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By: tef http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/27/tinted_tilly/comment-page-1/#comment-17839 tef Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:11:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1908#comment-17839 <p>"hahaha! Thanks for the comedy!"</p> <p>Thank you, thank you I will be here all week. Two uncles walk into a bar and...</p> <p>I assumed I didn't have to say this but I do not agree with the RSS. My sympathies are more Naipaul than Neandrthal.</p> <p>I believe the last prime minister was a member of the RSS. (Not sure) I do not think he was a terrorist.</p> “hahaha! Thanks for the comedy!”

Thank you, thank you I will be here all week. Two uncles walk into a bar and…

I assumed I didn’t have to say this but I do not agree with the RSS. My sympathies are more Naipaul than Neandrthal.

I believe the last prime minister was a member of the RSS. (Not sure) I do not think he was a terrorist.

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