Comments on: Neil Prakash in ‘Wired’ (updated) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Victor Erdahl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-280470 Victor Erdahl Sun, 19 Dec 2010 01:53:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-280470 <p>For anyone that thinks CPT Prakash does what he does for the bravado, you have no idea what you're talking about. Deployments can be long, depressing, sometimes boring, and when you finally are in combat, even CPT Prakash will tell you that it can be terrifying. There are times where you enjoy it. Knowing that you have greater fire power than your enemy, successfully completing a long mission with few losses, getting a pat on the back for a brave act you didn't realize you did, finding out that your efforts defended a once resentful and now grateful population, yes these things feel indescribably wonderful, even spectacular. Those of us who stay in combat arms after our first taste of war don't do it for the bravado. We do it because we know we can handle it and make moral, responsible and intelligent decisions. Right now I work for CPT Prakash, and he is honestly the finest commanding officer I have ever had. He utilizes my skills to help better the inexperienced soldiers, bounces ideas off of me when we converse, and he holds his soldiers to a very high standard without ignoring the importance of morale and family.</p> <p>He had the choice of becoming a neurosurgeon or staying in an often taxing and thankless job where he excels and helps to defend the society that welcomed him with open arms from India. Both are honorable professions, and require a great degree of expertise and constant learning. Maybe he decided that he would do more to help our society by taking the path he chose, but I can't speak for him. He is a wise man who is intelligent enough to make his own decisions and respectfully, as a grown ass man, he doesn't have to answer to those who criticize him. But my best advice, before you get into an argument with him, realize that you will be arguing with a man who could be a brain surgeon, is outgoing enough to have 160 follow him without question, and brilliant enough that he most likely qualifies for MENSA.</p> <p>Other than that, his actions and bravery speak for themselves.</p> <pre><code> -SGT Victor A. Erdahl </code></pre> For anyone that thinks CPT Prakash does what he does for the bravado, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Deployments can be long, depressing, sometimes boring, and when you finally are in combat, even CPT Prakash will tell you that it can be terrifying. There are times where you enjoy it. Knowing that you have greater fire power than your enemy, successfully completing a long mission with few losses, getting a pat on the back for a brave act you didn’t realize you did, finding out that your efforts defended a once resentful and now grateful population, yes these things feel indescribably wonderful, even spectacular. Those of us who stay in combat arms after our first taste of war don’t do it for the bravado. We do it because we know we can handle it and make moral, responsible and intelligent decisions. Right now I work for CPT Prakash, and he is honestly the finest commanding officer I have ever had. He utilizes my skills to help better the inexperienced soldiers, bounces ideas off of me when we converse, and he holds his soldiers to a very high standard without ignoring the importance of morale and family.

He had the choice of becoming a neurosurgeon or staying in an often taxing and thankless job where he excels and helps to defend the society that welcomed him with open arms from India. Both are honorable professions, and require a great degree of expertise and constant learning. Maybe he decided that he would do more to help our society by taking the path he chose, but I can’t speak for him. He is a wise man who is intelligent enough to make his own decisions and respectfully, as a grown ass man, he doesn’t have to answer to those who criticize him. But my best advice, before you get into an argument with him, realize that you will be arguing with a man who could be a brain surgeon, is outgoing enough to have 160 follow him without question, and brilliant enough that he most likely qualifies for MENSA.

Other than that, his actions and bravery speak for themselves.

                      -SGT Victor A. Erdahl
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By: jkaser http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-29161 jkaser Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:19:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-29161 <p>Neil- dude, where are you? you transpo or still ar? drop me a line when you get a chance. Nikki and I got married this weekend. kaser</p> Neil- dude, where are you? you transpo or still ar? drop me a line when you get a chance. Nikki and I got married this weekend. kaser

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By: Neil http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-26469 Neil Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:03:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-26469 <p>Funny thing. I never said the "call center" comment. I spoke with John Hockenberry and it was manufactured from our conversation. I corrected his fact-checkers when they emailed me with the story before print but they never made the corrections before it was published. WIRED was extremely apologetic but I didn't care enough to get mad about it. Those who know me know that I would never have worked in a call center since I grew up in the States and went to college already. Those who don't know me, I really don't care what they think of me. Yes, I see the hypocrisy in correcting myself and then saying I don't care about people's opinions. Moving on.</p> <p>Vinod, I'm sorry I didn't reach you. I was in San Fran last weekend but only for a day. I was doing the PCH drive with my wife. When I have more time, I will definitely meet up with you. I'm flying back to Germany today.</p> <p>Saheli, Punjab JAG, Manish, and icarus get it. I agree, there is no military solution to Iraq. Only a political one. My battalion commander said that from day 1. But if you're gonna do a job, you might as well be passionate about it. Furthermore, it takes a certain type of mentality to separate your line of work from humanity and compassion. Sometimes those interests coincide in Iraq, sometimes they don't. But the health, welfare, and morale of my soldiers was always #1 on my mind. And I came home with 100% of my men after major combat operations in Baqubah and Fallujah. RED BASTARDS!</p> <p>-Red 6</p> Funny thing. I never said the “call center” comment. I spoke with John Hockenberry and it was manufactured from our conversation. I corrected his fact-checkers when they emailed me with the story before print but they never made the corrections before it was published. WIRED was extremely apologetic but I didn’t care enough to get mad about it. Those who know me know that I would never have worked in a call center since I grew up in the States and went to college already. Those who don’t know me, I really don’t care what they think of me. Yes, I see the hypocrisy in correcting myself and then saying I don’t care about people’s opinions. Moving on.

Vinod, I’m sorry I didn’t reach you. I was in San Fran last weekend but only for a day. I was doing the PCH drive with my wife. When I have more time, I will definitely meet up with you. I’m flying back to Germany today.

Saheli, Punjab JAG, Manish, and icarus get it. I agree, there is no military solution to Iraq. Only a political one. My battalion commander said that from day 1. But if you’re gonna do a job, you might as well be passionate about it. Furthermore, it takes a certain type of mentality to separate your line of work from humanity and compassion. Sometimes those interests coincide in Iraq, sometimes they don’t. But the health, welfare, and morale of my soldiers was always #1 on my mind. And I came home with 100% of my men after major combat operations in Baqubah and Fallujah. RED BASTARDS!

-Red 6

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17753 GujuDude Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:07:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17753 <blockquote>Saheli - gals who can quote Herodotus on Thermopylae are cool!</blockquote> <p>Ditto!</p> <p>On that note, <i>Gates of Fire</i>by Steven Pressfield is an excellent book.</p> Saheli – gals who can quote Herodotus on Thermopylae are cool!

Ditto!

On that note, Gates of Fireby Steven Pressfield is an excellent book.

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By: vinod-at-large http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17749 vinod-at-large Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:57:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17749 <p>Saheli - gals who can quote Herodotus on Thermopylae are cool!</p> Saheli – gals who can quote Herodotus on Thermopylae are cool!

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17745 GujuDude Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:52:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17745 <p>Jarhead is a book about the first Gulf war.</p> <blockquote>Generation Kill</blockquote> <p>This is an interesting book. I've had mixed feelings about it, but one can't deny that it is raw and factually correct.</p> <p>My problem has been that people formulate opinions based upon one or two accounts. Hopefully, with the amount of coverage this war has seen, more people come out with their accounts (people already have, but there isn't anything wrong with more accounts) putting together a better picture of this giant puzzle. From reporter viewpoints, soldiers, leadership, etc. Keep your eyes open on another book written by the LT., who was depicted in Generation Kill, to come out sooner or later.</p> <p>On another note, some of the Recon Marines from that book, Rudy Reyes and Mike Saucier, are out of the Corps and are my boxing/martial arts instructors. I'll put in a plug for them, who have started their own <a href="http://www.zenkommando.com">fitness</a> thing.</p> <p>These are some good guys and they have interesting stories, particularly on Fallujah where their Recon Batallion was actually used for what it was trained to do, not the feint/bait as accounted for in Generation Kill.</p> Jarhead is a book about the first Gulf war.

Generation Kill

This is an interesting book. I’ve had mixed feelings about it, but one can’t deny that it is raw and factually correct.

My problem has been that people formulate opinions based upon one or two accounts. Hopefully, with the amount of coverage this war has seen, more people come out with their accounts (people already have, but there isn’t anything wrong with more accounts) putting together a better picture of this giant puzzle. From reporter viewpoints, soldiers, leadership, etc. Keep your eyes open on another book written by the LT., who was depicted in Generation Kill, to come out sooner or later.

On another note, some of the Recon Marines from that book, Rudy Reyes and Mike Saucier, are out of the Corps and are my boxing/martial arts instructors. I’ll put in a plug for them, who have started their own fitness thing.

These are some good guys and they have interesting stories, particularly on Fallujah where their Recon Batallion was actually used for what it was trained to do, not the feint/bait as accounted for in Generation Kill.

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17735 Vikram Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:32:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17735 <p>Some books written by other soldiers on current conflicts and combat:<br /> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743244915/qid=1122481111/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7038104-1521747?v=glance&s=books&n=507846">Jar Head</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0399151931/qid=1122481111/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/102-7038104-1521747?v=glance&s=books&n=507846">generation Kill</a></p> Some books written by other soldiers on current conflicts and combat:
Jar Head

generation Kill

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17690 Saheli Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:56:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17690 <p>What Manish said. The one group of people who need to be enthusiastic and not too reflective are the military. "Theirs is not to question why, theirs is but to do or die.. ." . . .or as I am in the habit of sady quoting, "We shall block the sun with our arrows!" "Why then we shall fight in the shade!" followed, of course, by "Oh you who pass by, go tell the Lakadaemonians that we lie here in obedience to their commands."</p> <p>I think Aslam on that other thread is well, wrong, but he's got a point. It's our (civilians with cushy day jobs and time to read the paper and blogs and call our Senators and bitch out our Reps) job to try and keep them safe and doing the morally right thing. It's their job to be ready at a moment's notice to defend us however we see fit.</p> <p>Go rent (or buy!) Gunner Palace. I highly recommend it. Bravado and zeal is not exclusive of inner doubt and moral sadness. He has a responsibility to keep up the morale of his troops and their families, and his blog is part of that effort.</p> <p>And yes, his comment abou the call center is kinda dumb.</p> What Manish said. The one group of people who need to be enthusiastic and not too reflective are the military. “Theirs is not to question why, theirs is but to do or die.. .” . . .or as I am in the habit of sady quoting, “We shall block the sun with our arrows!” “Why then we shall fight in the shade!” followed, of course, by “Oh you who pass by, go tell the Lakadaemonians that we lie here in obedience to their commands.”

I think Aslam on that other thread is well, wrong, but he’s got a point. It’s our (civilians with cushy day jobs and time to read the paper and blogs and call our Senators and bitch out our Reps) job to try and keep them safe and doing the morally right thing. It’s their job to be ready at a moment’s notice to defend us however we see fit.

Go rent (or buy!) Gunner Palace. I highly recommend it. Bravado and zeal is not exclusive of inner doubt and moral sadness. He has a responsibility to keep up the morale of his troops and their families, and his blog is part of that effort.

And yes, his comment abou the call center is kinda dumb.

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By: icarus http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17689 icarus Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:38:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17689 <p>| someone has to win our nation's wars.. If seeing zeal is the price for victory I'm ready to pay up.</p> <p>Punjabi JAG, Hope you haven't been buying the agitprop wholesale. This chap isn't winning anything. He THINKS he's winning something, and so does 50% of the nation. The reality on the ground is that this war has gone beyond the 'winnable' stage for America, because ultimately these things are not won by soldiers, but instead by statecraft. Both Juan Cole in Salon and <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18150">Peter Galbraith in NYRB</a> have written about this.</p> <p>I've linked to the NYRB article because Galbraith is not a partisan like Cole. But they both tell the same sorry story. The Imam Khomeini is smiling down from the heavens.</p> | someone has to win our nation’s wars.. If seeing zeal is the price for victory I’m ready to pay up.

Punjabi JAG, Hope you haven’t been buying the agitprop wholesale. This chap isn’t winning anything. He THINKS he’s winning something, and so does 50% of the nation. The reality on the ground is that this war has gone beyond the ‘winnable’ stage for America, because ultimately these things are not won by soldiers, but instead by statecraft. Both Juan Cole in Salon and Peter Galbraith in NYRB have written about this.

I’ve linked to the NYRB article because Galbraith is not a partisan like Cole. But they both tell the same sorry story. The Imam Khomeini is smiling down from the heavens.

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By: Punjabi JAG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/23/neil_prakash_in/comment-page-1/#comment-17483 Punjabi JAG Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:38:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1887#comment-17483 <p>I'd rather he be killing them than they be killing Americans.</p> <p>Simple, I know, but really, someone has to win our nation's wars and he's seems perfect for the job. Perhaps he should feel sorrow for every life that is lost but I somehow think that would damage his effectiveness as a warrior. If seeing zeal is the price for victory I'm ready to pay up.</p> I’d rather he be killing them than they be killing Americans.

Simple, I know, but really, someone has to win our nation’s wars and he’s seems perfect for the job. Perhaps he should feel sorrow for every life that is lost but I somehow think that would damage his effectiveness as a warrior. If seeing zeal is the price for victory I’m ready to pay up.

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