Comments on: Bucky Done Underwhelmed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: renegade http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-192988 renegade Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:31:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-192988 <p>ok hands up how many people know this means. "bucky done gun." if you are from the west indies like me then you already know that it means "he's already gone." all non west indians shut up and stay out of this. her accent is London, either west end or east end. which means she would have no doubt have been exposed to the London style reggae. and by the way, reggae is rarely made in Jamaica anymore since they death of robert nestor marley. what you get from Jamaica now is Dancehall. both although made by the same inspirations are very differnt.</p> <p>Now M.I.A. much more clearly uses london style in her song boyz. the beats are unmistakeable. you know lily allen also uses London style reggae beats in most of her songs. look if you don't know what you're talking about jump.</p> <p>you have to be west indian to know what that means. people that are not from our region and our backgrounds don't know anything about our culture. you only know about the beaches. so therefore you have no right or place even trying to explain something from our collective cultures.</p> <p>thank you for your time.</p> ok hands up how many people know this means. “bucky done gun.” if you are from the west indies like me then you already know that it means “he’s already gone.” all non west indians shut up and stay out of this. her accent is London, either west end or east end. which means she would have no doubt have been exposed to the London style reggae. and by the way, reggae is rarely made in Jamaica anymore since they death of robert nestor marley. what you get from Jamaica now is Dancehall. both although made by the same inspirations are very differnt.

Now M.I.A. much more clearly uses london style in her song boyz. the beats are unmistakeable. you know lily allen also uses London style reggae beats in most of her songs. look if you don’t know what you’re talking about jump.

you have to be west indian to know what that means. people that are not from our region and our backgrounds don’t know anything about our culture. you only know about the beaches. so therefore you have no right or place even trying to explain something from our collective cultures.

thank you for your time.

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By: Danyell http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-48201 Danyell Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:58:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-48201 <p>Sluggo, do you notice how your version of the lyrics don't make any sense at all?</p> <p>Btw, since when in hip-hop, dancehall or any other related genre is sampling "uncreative"? Isn't that the foundation of the music itself? So what if she borrows from other cultures or styles? The genre is one of sound collage, and she has some of the freshest beats I've ever heard. And as far as her "fake" accent- it's called actually being Sri Lanken.</p> <p>It's just typical though- a female artist makes some sincerely good music and everyone can't wait to tear her down. <em>sigh</em></p> Sluggo, do you notice how your version of the lyrics don’t make any sense at all?

Btw, since when in hip-hop, dancehall or any other related genre is sampling “uncreative”? Isn’t that the foundation of the music itself? So what if she borrows from other cultures or styles? The genre is one of sound collage, and she has some of the freshest beats I’ve ever heard. And as far as her “fake” accent- it’s called actually being Sri Lanken.

It’s just typical though- a female artist makes some sincerely good music and everyone can’t wait to tear her down. sigh

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By: JustB http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-45761 JustB Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:23:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-45761 <p>ok i just want to say one thing someone said that the track was on a Brazilian Baile Funk sample but i read somewhere that it was actually using a sample from an old song by Afrikaa Bambaataa or someone of that same time period perhaps soul Sonic Force who are both Hip-Hop/Techno-Pop Futurism DJs, Afrikaa Bambaataa having the hit of 1982 Planet Rock, and Soul Sonic Force the hit Searching For The Perfect Beat Or Funky Beat i cant remember right now but both are awesome. anyway i definitely love M.I.A. her music is so original to me here in the U.S. and her beats are crazy sick, and i just could go on and on about how much i love her, because she kicks ass and rules. well im not here to start anything but i also do want to say this M.I.A. has repeatedly denied claims of having ties with the terrorism rumors, as well as being part of the Tamil Tigers or whoever. btw almost anything that she is on i love because its always so fresh and new. i am an open minded music listener anyway so perhaps thats the reason. whatever it is i totally support M.I.A. 10000000000% lol and i think she is <b>one of the sexiest women on the planet!!!</b> but hey thats me. and in Galang i thought the same so its not because of her highlights or her straightening of her hair, she is sexy regardless.</p> ok i just want to say one thing someone said that the track was on a Brazilian Baile Funk sample but i read somewhere that it was actually using a sample from an old song by Afrikaa Bambaataa or someone of that same time period perhaps soul Sonic Force who are both Hip-Hop/Techno-Pop Futurism DJs, Afrikaa Bambaataa having the hit of 1982 Planet Rock, and Soul Sonic Force the hit Searching For The Perfect Beat Or Funky Beat i cant remember right now but both are awesome. anyway i definitely love M.I.A. her music is so original to me here in the U.S. and her beats are crazy sick, and i just could go on and on about how much i love her, because she kicks ass and rules. well im not here to start anything but i also do want to say this M.I.A. has repeatedly denied claims of having ties with the terrorism rumors, as well as being part of the Tamil Tigers or whoever. btw almost anything that she is on i love because its always so fresh and new. i am an open minded music listener anyway so perhaps thats the reason. whatever it is i totally support M.I.A. 10000000000% lol and i think she is one of the sexiest women on the planet!!! but hey thats me. and in Galang i thought the same so its not because of her highlights or her straightening of her hair, she is sexy regardless.

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By: FODA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-41003 FODA Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:13:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-41003 <p>I'm brazililan, and brazilian funk isn't copied from outside, the samples are totally remade, the samples make new "melodies" if you can call it that way (the melody side of it is poor really, it's more about the primitive beat). What M.I.A did was direct copy. Which is OK since DJ Marlboro authorized it. Yea he did authorize it.</p> <p>If you want to know more about funk it's probably gonna be hard to find information in english since it's such a guetto movement, disliked by the high society, who would write about it in stereotypes and pejorative ways.</p> <p>I can give you some key words to search for brazilian funk: - Furacao 2000 ("Furacão 2000", if your keyboard can do that) - Equipe Pipo's - DJ marlboro - Veronica Costa - Romulo costa - Claudinho e Bochecha - Vinicius e Andinho - Tati quebra barraco (this one really sucks, imo, but for some reason she's a success right now, i don't get it) - MC Marcinho e MC William</p> <p>Although the funnest funks are usually called "Montagem" so you can search about that too. It's similar to what Diplo should have done to Engessão, instead of copying it.</p> <p>Funk can also be refered to as "rap" but that's been stopped for 10 years i think.</p> <p>Hf and good luck (there are very bad music amongst what you'll find hehe, but some are really fun).</p> I’m brazililan, and brazilian funk isn’t copied from outside, the samples are totally remade, the samples make new “melodies” if you can call it that way (the melody side of it is poor really, it’s more about the primitive beat). What M.I.A did was direct copy. Which is OK since DJ Marlboro authorized it. Yea he did authorize it.

If you want to know more about funk it’s probably gonna be hard to find information in english since it’s such a guetto movement, disliked by the high society, who would write about it in stereotypes and pejorative ways.

I can give you some key words to search for brazilian funk: - Furacao 2000 (“Furacão 2000″, if your keyboard can do that) - Equipe Pipo’s - DJ marlboro - Veronica Costa - Romulo costa - Claudinho e Bochecha - Vinicius e Andinho - Tati quebra barraco (this one really sucks, imo, but for some reason she’s a success right now, i don’t get it) - MC Marcinho e MC William

Although the funnest funks are usually called “Montagem” so you can search about that too. It’s similar to what Diplo should have done to Engessão, instead of copying it.

Funk can also be refered to as “rap” but that’s been stopped for 10 years i think.

Hf and good luck (there are very bad music amongst what you’ll find hehe, but some are really fun).

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By: Rudebai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-38688 Rudebai Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:23:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-38688 <p>she not tryna sound trini....its LONDON accent which is similar to trini and gt</p> she not tryna sound trini….its LONDON accent which is similar to trini and gt

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By: BOON http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-36066 BOON Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:15:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-36066 <p>Btw, cicatrix, i also just saw No More Tears Sister. It was made by a Canadian chick (Helene Klodawsky) and produced by the Canadian National Film Board and my sister happens to work there. It should probably be playing on CBC Newsworld soon (CBC is the Canadian NBC or BBC and Newsworld is the secondary channel devoted to documentary type programs).</p> <p>Sucks to hear about the Tiger types showing up at that screening. Talk about continuing insult to injury.</p> <p>While we're on the MIA and documentary/video tip, you might be interested to peep this behind the scenes look at the filming of a music video for a Somali-Canadian MC named K'NAAN in Kenya.</p> <p>K'naan left Somalia around the same age Maya left SL and like Maya's crew shooting in India for Sunshowers cuz SL was too heaty, K'naan's crew had to go to neighbooring Kenya instead. They shot in the Somalian ghetto enclave called Kibera (which was also featured in the movie the Constant Gardner).</p> <p>BEHIND THE SCENES: http://www.directcurrentmedia.com/display.asp?catID=2&pageID=7&videoID=204</p> <p>SOOBAX MUSIC VIDEO: http://www.directcurrentmedia.com/display.asp?catID=2&pageID=7&videoID=184</p> <p>Sorry, dunno how to do them active link thingys but thought you (or some others) may be interested.</p> <p>As far as baile funk influencing shit outside of brazil, i think you'll have to give it more time, its still largely unknown even in lots of undergrounds scenes, I reckon but aslong as people dont notice the brazilian chants and stuff, some of the stuff can fit right into a breaks/booty set without anyone noticing what it is, I think.</p> <p>Where'd you get them BDG lyrics, btw? Aint so on, ya?</p> Btw, cicatrix, i also just saw No More Tears Sister. It was made by a Canadian chick (Helene Klodawsky) and produced by the Canadian National Film Board and my sister happens to work there. It should probably be playing on CBC Newsworld soon (CBC is the Canadian NBC or BBC and Newsworld is the secondary channel devoted to documentary type programs).

Sucks to hear about the Tiger types showing up at that screening. Talk about continuing insult to injury.

While we’re on the MIA and documentary/video tip, you might be interested to peep this behind the scenes look at the filming of a music video for a Somali-Canadian MC named K’NAAN in Kenya.

K’naan left Somalia around the same age Maya left SL and like Maya’s crew shooting in India for Sunshowers cuz SL was too heaty, K’naan’s crew had to go to neighbooring Kenya instead. They shot in the Somalian ghetto enclave called Kibera (which was also featured in the movie the Constant Gardner).

BEHIND THE SCENES: http://www.directcurrentmedia.com/display.asp?catID=2&pageID=7&videoID=204

SOOBAX MUSIC VIDEO: http://www.directcurrentmedia.com/display.asp?catID=2&pageID=7&videoID=184

Sorry, dunno how to do them active link thingys but thought you (or some others) may be interested.

As far as baile funk influencing shit outside of brazil, i think you’ll have to give it more time, its still largely unknown even in lots of undergrounds scenes, I reckon but aslong as people dont notice the brazilian chants and stuff, some of the stuff can fit right into a breaks/booty set without anyone noticing what it is, I think.

Where’d you get them BDG lyrics, btw? Aint so on, ya?

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By: BOON http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-36065 BOON Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:11:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-36065 <p>The horn sample from BDG is indeed from the Rocky theme. Listen to it again and you'll recognize it (if not, read cd sleeve credits).</p> <p>As Cicatrix has pointed out, BF is just a miami bass spinoff so i dont see MIA/Diplo cant spin off of BF? Though saying that they "sampled BF" is like saying so and so sampled hip hop or rock. Isnt it more like they did a bf song?</p> <p>BDG is also the only Diplo produced song on her disc.</p> <p>Totally dug your piece in City Pages, btw, Cicatrix. Perhaps you will find this link interesting: http://www.lankatruth.com/full_story/Sept_2005/27092005/full_story_20050927_5.htm</p> <p>Btw, both Piracy Funds Terrorism and (Diplo's)Favela on Blast mixes are available here: http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/miadiplo_arularet2005.html</p> The horn sample from BDG is indeed from the Rocky theme. Listen to it again and you’ll recognize it (if not, read cd sleeve credits).

As Cicatrix has pointed out, BF is just a miami bass spinoff so i dont see MIA/Diplo cant spin off of BF? Though saying that they “sampled BF” is like saying so and so sampled hip hop or rock. Isnt it more like they did a bf song?

BDG is also the only Diplo produced song on her disc.

Totally dug your piece in City Pages, btw, Cicatrix. Perhaps you will find this link interesting: http://www.lankatruth.com/full_story/Sept_2005/27092005/full_story_20050927_5.htm

Btw, both Piracy Funds Terrorism and (Diplo’s)Favela on Blast mixes are available here: http://www.cokemachineglow.com/reviews/miadiplo_arularet2005.html

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By: Liduiv http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-33760 Liduiv Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:49:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-33760 <p>WOW IS THE BEST I HEAR IN VERY LONG TIME! SHEŽS ESPECTACULAR! I LO VE HER SHEŽS THE BEST!</p> WOW IS THE BEST I HEAR IN VERY LONG TIME! SHEŽS ESPECTACULAR! I LO VE HER SHEŽS THE BEST!

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By: Cutlass http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-30592 Cutlass Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:46:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-30592 <blockquote>littl gallow's humor to make the koththamalli go down, yeah?)</blockquote> <p>What? Only heavily accented post-colonial, mutated English please. But then again if dopey white boys from the suburbs be reppin' like the Yin Yang twins...well, it's all good</p> littl gallow’s humor to make the koththamalli go down, yeah?)

What? Only heavily accented post-colonial, mutated English please. But then again if dopey white boys from the suburbs be reppin’ like the Yin Yang twins…well, it’s all good

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/21/bucky_dun_under/comment-page-2/#comment-30591 cicatrix Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:36:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1874#comment-30591 <p>yes, they do ;)</p> <p>(ugh..so not funny. But we need a littl gallow's humor to make the koththamalli go down, yeah?)</p> yes, they do ;)

(ugh..so not funny. But we need a littl gallow’s humor to make the koththamalli go down, yeah?)

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