Comments on: Anchors away http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Shergil Wondai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-2/#comment-78394 Shergil Wondai Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:01:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-78394 <p>i wonder if Dasrani knows what a twisted programmer, coke addict he has working for him.</p> i wonder if Dasrani knows what a twisted programmer, coke addict he has working for him.

]]> By: Andrew Jackson http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16807 Andrew Jackson Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:49:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16807 <p>I dont know about you, but Im already ready for MTV India 2.</p> I dont know about you, but Im already ready for MTV India 2.

]]> By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16798 razib Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:11:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16798 <p>"brown" will be defined by popular vote. there will be a few subsidiary brown sub-identities, but it won't be a world of identification-plentitude....</p> “brown” will be defined by popular vote. there will be a few subsidiary brown sub-identities, but it won’t be a world of identification-plentitude….

]]> By: Saurav http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16790 Saurav Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:39:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16790 <blockquote>As far as I can tell, the person who excluded mixed-race desis from their definition of "authentically desi" was some acquaintance of Anil Dash's, and not someone who has anything to do with MTV Desi.</blockquote> <p>Wow...you're right. Thanks for catching me on that! I can't believe I did that. Your other point seems pretty legit too, ads. I guess I'll withhold judgement on the inclusivity thing on MTV Desi until I hear more about it or actually see it. Not sure I'll do the same about the "corporate shill" thing, though :)</p> <p>I think what made me jump the gun is that that the argument I made applies to a lot of other examples of American "South Asian" or "desi" things that I've seen, even if it didn't in this instance.</p> <blockquote>I guess I figure the network that gave us "Daria" can't be all bad. Just mostly bad.</blockquote> <p>I'll take your word for it, I guess. I refuse to put in the time to actually watch it anymore :)</p> <p>Anyway, thanks for putting out there what you did.</p> As far as I can tell, the person who excluded mixed-race desis from their definition of “authentically desi” was some acquaintance of Anil Dash’s, and not someone who has anything to do with MTV Desi.

Wow…you’re right. Thanks for catching me on that! I can’t believe I did that. Your other point seems pretty legit too, ads. I guess I’ll withhold judgement on the inclusivity thing on MTV Desi until I hear more about it or actually see it. Not sure I’ll do the same about the “corporate shill” thing, though :)

I think what made me jump the gun is that that the argument I made applies to a lot of other examples of American “South Asian” or “desi” things that I’ve seen, even if it didn’t in this instance.

I guess I figure the network that gave us “Daria” can’t be all bad. Just mostly bad.

I’ll take your word for it, I guess. I refuse to put in the time to actually watch it anymore :)

Anyway, thanks for putting out there what you did.

]]> By: ads http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16789 ads Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:03:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16789 <p>I kind of agree that Saurav might be jumping the gun a bit. As far as I can tell, the person who excluded mixed-race desis from their definition of "authentically desi" was some acquaintance of Anil Dash's, and not someone who has anything to do with MTV Desi. So that leaves the use of "Indian-American" in a blurb on the "How to get MTV Desi" webpage. From a (non-exhaustive) glance at the MTV Desi website, my impression is that they seem to favor the use of the terms "South Asian" and "desi," apart from that one instance (which I agree is unnecessarily exclusive). So maybe we should give the web page editor the benefit of the doubt on that one.<br /> Since I seem to have become an apologist for MTV, I guess I'll also point out that hidden among the crap like "Real World/Road Rules Challenge #372" and "Camera Whores Date" are some decent shows like "True Life" and "Made." I guess I figure the network that gave us "Daria" can't be all bad. Just mostly bad.</p> I kind of agree that Saurav might be jumping the gun a bit. As far as I can tell, the person who excluded mixed-race desis from their definition of “authentically desi” was some acquaintance of Anil Dash’s, and not someone who has anything to do with MTV Desi. So that leaves the use of “Indian-American” in a blurb on the “How to get MTV Desi” webpage. From a (non-exhaustive) glance at the MTV Desi website, my impression is that they seem to favor the use of the terms “South Asian” and “desi,” apart from that one instance (which I agree is unnecessarily exclusive). So maybe we should give the web page editor the benefit of the doubt on that one.
Since I seem to have become an apologist for MTV, I guess I’ll also point out that hidden among the crap like “Real World/Road Rules Challenge #372″ and “Camera Whores Date” are some decent shows like “True Life” and “Made.” I guess I figure the network that gave us “Daria” can’t be all bad. Just mostly bad.

]]> By: NdNKutie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16776 NdNKutie Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:25:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16776 <p>I bust cuz I love, baby-doll! My issue is you didn’t just say you’d like to see a variety of voices on this channel. You’ve already accused it of being fascist and un-inclusive. I’ve seen MTV India in Bombay and yes it’s just like MTV here. Mostly crap. But it was great to see that gorgeous Rabbi Shergill video. There will probably be similar “Oooooh” moments on the channel here for the eleven or so people that get to see it.</p> I bust cuz I love, baby-doll! My issue is you didn’t just say you’d like to see a variety of voices on this channel. You’ve already accused it of being fascist and un-inclusive. I’ve seen MTV India in Bombay and yes it’s just like MTV here. Mostly crap. But it was great to see that gorgeous Rabbi Shergill video. There will probably be similar “Oooooh” moments on the channel here for the eleven or so people that get to see it.

]]> By: Saurav http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16768 Saurav Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:23:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16768 <p>I'm not used to people agreeing with me here; maybe I should stop being civil so I can get back in my comfort zone :) Thanks for the props :)</p> <p>Anyone have any suggestions on what to do, if anything? If I typed up an e-mail to them, would anyone be interested in signing on or getting a copy? Yes, I know there are <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0721/p08s01-comv.html">potentially more important things</a> to worry about.</p> <blockquote><blockquote>I can't imagine that we, as a collective group of indivdiuals are this stupid that we need to buy into whatever MTV desi spoons out to us.</blockquote> But that's the entire premise regular MTV runs on these days...</blockquote> <p>Yeah, I was working on the premise that pointing out MTV is a marketing tool to teenagers more than a cultural entity might be a little obnoxious in this context :)<br /> Where are VH1 Desi, Fuse Desi, and BET Desi, anyway? I would totally watch Girlfriends Desi, and BET News Desi.</p> I’m not used to people agreeing with me here; maybe I should stop being civil so I can get back in my comfort zone :) Thanks for the props :)

Anyone have any suggestions on what to do, if anything? If I typed up an e-mail to them, would anyone be interested in signing on or getting a copy? Yes, I know there are potentially more important things to worry about.

I can’t imagine that we, as a collective group of indivdiuals are this stupid that we need to buy into whatever MTV desi spoons out to us.
But that’s the entire premise regular MTV runs on these days…

Yeah, I was working on the premise that pointing out MTV is a marketing tool to teenagers more than a cultural entity might be a little obnoxious in this context :)
Where are VH1 Desi, Fuse Desi, and BET Desi, anyway? I would totally watch Girlfriends Desi, and BET News Desi.

]]> By: NdNKutie http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16767 NdNKutie Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:15:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16767 <p>Attacking MTV's programming is like taking a stand on child porn. Way to go guys. And without overly cynical comments. Sepia Mutiny would your unread personal blog.</p> Attacking MTV’s programming is like taking a stand on child porn. Way to go guys. And without overly cynical comments. Sepia Mutiny would your unread personal blog.

]]> By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16761 cicatrix Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:30:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16761 <blockquote>They should a Andy Rooney style segment with Amitabh, that would be hot!</blockquote> <p>Hahhahha!! Yeah..I'd get cable just to see that! His subtle beatdown of Charlie Rose was priceless..</p> <p>And to add to chorus - very well put Saurav. I couldn't agree more. My expectations of MTVanything are always pretty low, but it would be nice if they <I>tried</I> to live up to our idealistic expectations. Of the 13 shows mentioned above, 3 feature the Cyrus duo, and another 3 are about Bollywood. So much for variety.</p> They should a Andy Rooney style segment with Amitabh, that would be hot!

Hahhahha!! Yeah..I’d get cable just to see that! His subtle beatdown of Charlie Rose was priceless..

And to add to chorus – very well put Saurav. I couldn’t agree more. My expectations of MTVanything are always pretty low, but it would be nice if they tried to live up to our idealistic expectations. Of the 13 shows mentioned above, 3 feature the Cyrus duo, and another 3 are about Bollywood. So much for variety.

]]> By: ms http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/07/19/anchors_away/comment-page-1/#comment-16759 ms Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:52:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1866#comment-16759 <p>Just for the (straight) guys, I think they should take "Queer Eye for the Brown Guy" and flip it on its head. Maybe a show where they take a regular brown gal and slut her up a bit. <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/001552.html">They</a> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/001169.html">could</a> definitely help. That would prob'ly bring in a sizeable male demographic and maybe also keep the "South Asian" bickering at bay for a while.</p> Just for the (straight) guys, I think they should take “Queer Eye for the Brown Guy” and flip it on its head. Maybe a show where they take a regular brown gal and slut her up a bit. They could definitely help. That would prob’ly bring in a sizeable male demographic and maybe also keep the “South Asian” bickering at bay for a while.

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