Comments on: Why Johnny can’t multiply http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Lovin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14629 Lovin Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:52:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14629 <p>hee-</p> <p><i> Yes, but apparently your personal stereotype of "they're all straight men or lesbians" is alive and well. ;-)</i></p> <p>sorry i'm blanking out here...which post did I say women are lesbians? I've said a lot of outlandish things but I'm not recalling this one?</p> hee-

Yes, but apparently your personal stereotype of “they’re all straight men or lesbians” is alive and well. ;-)

sorry i’m blanking out here…which post did I say women are lesbians? I’ve said a lot of outlandish things but I’m not recalling this one?

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By: Hee http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14626 Hee Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:47:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14626 <p><i>I guess my dreams of developing other Indian stereotypes such as "they're tall" or "they're great w/ the ladies" are never going to come true</i></p> <p>Yes, but apparently your personal stereotype of "they're all straight men or lesbians" is alive and well. ;-)</p> I guess my dreams of developing other Indian stereotypes such as “they’re tall” or “they’re great w/ the ladies” are never going to come true

Yes, but apparently your personal stereotype of “they’re all straight men or lesbians” is alive and well. ;-)

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By: Lovin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14609 Lovin Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:57:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14609 <p>one of the best things my mom ever did to teach me numbers was to play snakes n ladders and help me visualize the numbers as physical objects rather than mental concepts. Then from there she taught me the concepts of addition, subtraction multiplication all w/ the same board. though it only went up to 100, it still helps me as of today to visualize numbers and do quick calcs in my head...it's almost like constantly figuring out where the number should be on a game board and just visualizing a 10x10, 20x20 etc board. i don't know if something like this works for anyone as well</p> one of the best things my mom ever did to teach me numbers was to play snakes n ladders and help me visualize the numbers as physical objects rather than mental concepts. Then from there she taught me the concepts of addition, subtraction multiplication all w/ the same board. though it only went up to 100, it still helps me as of today to visualize numbers and do quick calcs in my head…it’s almost like constantly figuring out where the number should be on a game board and just visualizing a 10×10, 20×20 etc board. i don’t know if something like this works for anyone as well

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14587 DesiDancer Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:55:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14587 <p>I'm not so old, but in elementary school we had harsh math drills on the "times tables", memorizing multiplication up to 13s... I don't know what they do these days, but are multiplication tables a thing of the past?</p> I’m not so old, but in elementary school we had harsh math drills on the “times tables”, memorizing multiplication up to 13s… I don’t know what they do these days, but are multiplication tables a thing of the past?

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By: Lovin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14582 Lovin Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:51:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14582 <p>this isn't going to help us shake our stereotypes anytime soon.....I guess my dreams of developing other Indian stereotypes such as "they're tall" or "they're great w/ the ladies" are never going to come true</p> this isn’t going to help us shake our stereotypes anytime soon…..I guess my dreams of developing other Indian stereotypes such as “they’re tall” or “they’re great w/ the ladies” are never going to come true

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By: Krishnan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14576 Krishnan Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:32:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14576 <p>I learnt my tables by rote in India) and could tell any number upto 25 tmes 25 on the spot. That was 55 years ago. Later I went to work in Nigeria where the people considered us Indian professional accountants as coming in from heaven seeing our ability to tote up numbers real fast.</p> <p>But fifteen years in Nigeria, the increased use of calculators and computers and most importantly change in job specifications ensured that my skills with numbers declined steadily. Today I habitally reach for a calculator, mostly in my computer even for routine additions.</p> <p>It is necessary to have continuous application of these mental skills to keep them alive. When negotiating million dollar deals I can figure out the interest or other costs in a flash with my old skills. But I have no need to do routine totalling etc nowadays.</p> I learnt my tables by rote in India) and could tell any number upto 25 tmes 25 on the spot. That was 55 years ago. Later I went to work in Nigeria where the people considered us Indian professional accountants as coming in from heaven seeing our ability to tote up numbers real fast.

But fifteen years in Nigeria, the increased use of calculators and computers and most importantly change in job specifications ensured that my skills with numbers declined steadily. Today I habitally reach for a calculator, mostly in my computer even for routine additions.

It is necessary to have continuous application of these mental skills to keep them alive. When negotiating million dollar deals I can figure out the interest or other costs in a flash with my old skills. But I have no need to do routine totalling etc nowadays.

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By: BJ http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14575 BJ Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:27:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14575 <p>Reminds me of the time when I paid $10 and 13 cents for a $5.13 drive-thru bill and the girl at the window, got all confused, stared at her computer, stared at me, stared at the computer again, looked down at the money again, and then said "Keep this change, sir" and then proceeded to give me the $4.87 too. She then with a confident smile said "It was $5.13 and not $10.13, sir"</p> <p>The shock made my foot take almost 5 whole seconds to let go of the brake and move on ...</p> Reminds me of the time when I paid $10 and 13 cents for a $5.13 drive-thru bill and the girl at the window, got all confused, stared at her computer, stared at me, stared at the computer again, looked down at the money again, and then said “Keep this change, sir” and then proceeded to give me the $4.87 too. She then with a confident smile said “It was $5.13 and not $10.13, sir”

The shock made my foot take almost 5 whole seconds to let go of the brake and move on …

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By: sunil laxman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14567 sunil laxman Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:56:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14567 <p>OK......I'm pretty pleased to be linked from Sepia (one of my fav. blogs)!</p> <p>That aside...I think the American system also used to have a lot of these basic drills, atleast till the 60's. My boss (a 60 year old scientist) is fantastic with numbers in his head........but none of my collegues can manage it. Most of us (Indian grad students) do a lot of the sums in our head, while some of my collegues reach out for the calculators for dividing 48 by 8. I believe there is an important place for some "rote learning" in primary education, perhaps up to middle school.</p> OK……I’m pretty pleased to be linked from Sepia (one of my fav. blogs)!

That aside…I think the American system also used to have a lot of these basic drills, atleast till the 60′s. My boss (a 60 year old scientist) is fantastic with numbers in his head……..but none of my collegues can manage it. Most of us (Indian grad students) do a lot of the sums in our head, while some of my collegues reach out for the calculators for dividing 48 by 8. I believe there is an important place for some “rote learning” in primary education, perhaps up to middle school.

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By: Michael H. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14560 Michael H. Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:31:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14560 <p>Sunil Laxman write an excellent blog: <a href="http://balancinglife.blogspot.com">Balancing Life</a>. Check out his previous posts on <a href="http://balancinglife.blogspot.com/2005/06/day-my-god-died.html">child slavery</a>, <a href="http://balancinglife.blogspot.com/2005/06/quest-for-perfect-dosa.html">the perfect dosa</a>, and the <a href="http://balancinglife.blogspot.com/2005/06/fresh-puffs-dilpasand-and-little.html">bakeries of Bangalore</a>.</p> Sunil Laxman write an excellent blog: Balancing Life. Check out his previous posts on child slavery, the perfect dosa, and the bakeries of Bangalore.

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By: Prema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/29/innumeracy/comment-page-1/#comment-14556 Prema Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:53:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1787#comment-14556 <p>The arithmetic skills of the roadside vegetable sellers in mumbai are absolutely astounding. Even the little boys will be mentally adding up all the "Pau Kilo"prices and will come up with your total in seconds when the convent-educated memsaab will be grimacing with all the numbers in her head. It is so unfortunate that these kids will never have a chance to put their skills to better use.</p> <p>Premlata</p> The arithmetic skills of the roadside vegetable sellers in mumbai are absolutely astounding. Even the little boys will be mentally adding up all the “Pau Kilo”prices and will come up with your total in seconds when the convent-educated memsaab will be grimacing with all the numbers in her head. It is so unfortunate that these kids will never have a chance to put their skills to better use.

Premlata

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