Comments on: Terrorist tech support http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fickle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-35338 fickle Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:34:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-35338 <p>I found this sketch really funny. Yeah, it's not PC and they are making the indian guy to be a bit of an idiot, but how many times have I seen an innacurate portrayal of a Scottish stereotype in the media?</p> <p>I have had so many calls with Dell Tech support recently and this was the only thing that stopped me hanging up halfway through them!</p> I found this sketch really funny. Yeah, it’s not PC and they are making the indian guy to be a bit of an idiot, but how many times have I seen an innacurate portrayal of a Scottish stereotype in the media?

I have had so many calls with Dell Tech support recently and this was the only thing that stopped me hanging up halfway through them!

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14832 Vikram Sun, 03 Jul 2005 04:13:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14832 <p>Ah, somehow I knew your going to allude to me not using the appropriate forum. :-) Perhaps it has slipped your mind that you had posted the link to Ms Nooyi's speech as well as drew the specious analogy between she being treated criticially because she was a minority and not just because of her brainless comments. So I was just refuting your analogy.</p> <p>Ironically she refers to the American lack of tact in China and being boorish and insensitive. Did she really pay attention to her own speech ?</p> <p>To get this back in sync with the comments in this thread, my take is that in our hurry to be critical of tasteless stereptyping, we shouldn't be defending people who are doing the same thing just because they happen to be of our ethnic extraction. In the long run I think that will hurt us more than it will help us.</p> Ah, somehow I knew your going to allude to me not using the appropriate forum. :-) Perhaps it has slipped your mind that you had posted the link to Ms Nooyi’s speech as well as drew the specious analogy between she being treated criticially because she was a minority and not just because of her brainless comments. So I was just refuting your analogy.

Ironically she refers to the American lack of tact in China and being boorish and insensitive. Did she really pay attention to her own speech ?

To get this back in sync with the comments in this thread, my take is that in our hurry to be critical of tasteless stereptyping, we shouldn’t be defending people who are doing the same thing just because they happen to be of our ethnic extraction. In the long run I think that will hurt us more than it will help us.

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14831 Manish Vij Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:19:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14831 <p>Also, using commencement speeches as political calls to action is common. The year before Nooyi at Columbia, playwright Tony Kushner hilariously, obliquely critiqued Bush's foreign policy. It was an excellent speech. He's a much better writer.</p> Also, using commencement speeches as political calls to action is common. The year before Nooyi at Columbia, playwright Tony Kushner hilariously, obliquely critiqued Bush’s foreign policy. It was an excellent speech. He’s a much better writer.

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14830 Manish Vij Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:08:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14830 <p>If you care about using the appropriate forum, perhaps you could post your Nooyi comments under one of the Nooyi posts?</p> <p>Re: appropriateness, her point about the need for respectful foreign policy, made in an ironically insensitive way, was made to a friendly audience. Columbia is an extremely liberal campus. The politics raised no eyebrows among most of the audience; the wording did.</p> If you care about using the appropriate forum, perhaps you could post your Nooyi comments under one of the Nooyi posts?

Re: appropriateness, her point about the need for respectful foreign policy, made in an ironically insensitive way, was made to a friendly audience. Columbia is an extremely liberal campus. The politics raised no eyebrows among most of the audience; the wording did.

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14826 Vikram Sun, 03 Jul 2005 02:01:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14826 <p>Manish Vij wrote:</p> <p>"'The badly-written commencement speech hurt my feelings.'</p> <p>Which proves the point."</p> <p>Her comments don't bother me in the least. She is free to say what she wants. What does bother me is her crass lack of tact and good manners to be appropriate for the forum in which she voices her views. Her behavior is in no way different from Roseanne Barr grabbing her crotch and spitting when she sang the national anthem at a baseball game some years ago. If Indra Nooyi had her views to vent, she could have used something else, not make what was to have been about the graduating students into a mean spirited self serving speech. I'm sure a person as smart as she is and with the resources she has, could have voiced her opinions in some political forum. Funny that she chooses a situation where nobody could get up and refute her views. Perhaps she is unable to actually debate her views ? And hence prefers it to be one sided ?</p> <p>Oh and by the way, people like Eddie Murphy (Black) and Howard Stern (Jewish) built their early careers out of insulting the majority... obviously the majority enjoyed that ! Which proves my point about using the appropriate forum.</p> Manish Vij wrote:

“‘The badly-written commencement speech hurt my feelings.’

Which proves the point.”

Her comments don’t bother me in the least. She is free to say what she wants. What does bother me is her crass lack of tact and good manners to be appropriate for the forum in which she voices her views. Her behavior is in no way different from Roseanne Barr grabbing her crotch and spitting when she sang the national anthem at a baseball game some years ago. If Indra Nooyi had her views to vent, she could have used something else, not make what was to have been about the graduating students into a mean spirited self serving speech. I’m sure a person as smart as she is and with the resources she has, could have voiced her opinions in some political forum. Funny that she chooses a situation where nobody could get up and refute her views. Perhaps she is unable to actually debate her views ? And hence prefers it to be one sided ?

Oh and by the way, people like Eddie Murphy (Black) and Howard Stern (Jewish) built their early careers out of insulting the majority… obviously the majority enjoyed that ! Which proves my point about using the appropriate forum.

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14821 Manish Vij Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:29:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14821 <blockquote> I hope that is the last time she is ever invited to speak anywhere.</blockquote> <p>'The badly-written commencement speech hurt my feelings.'</p> <p>Which proves the point.</p> <p>By the way, the <i>real</i> asymmetry? That Americans know many more Americans than real-life desis. That's why these racial stereotypes are so damaging.</p> I hope that is the last time she is ever invited to speak anywhere.

‘The badly-written commencement speech hurt my feelings.’

Which proves the point.

By the way, the real asymmetry? That Americans know many more Americans than real-life desis. That’s why these racial stereotypes are so damaging.

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14805 Vikram Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:24:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14805 <p>There is a vast difference in context of the two examples you quote:</p> <p>The anti-Japanese cartoon was drawn in WW II. The Japanese (at that time) were hardly known for their kind treatment of "Gaijin".</p> <p>Indra Nooyi is someone who heads a multinational American company, owes her success to the American business system, makes millions of dollars and yet shows her total disrespect of all Americans, who are off all races and religions. What was the point she was trying to convey ? That she has no concept of tact in a public speech ? I hope that is the last time she is ever invited to speak anywhere.</p> <p>Nothing similar about the two incidents.</p> There is a vast difference in context of the two examples you quote:

The anti-Japanese cartoon was drawn in WW II. The Japanese (at that time) were hardly known for their kind treatment of “Gaijin”.

Indra Nooyi is someone who heads a multinational American company, owes her success to the American business system, makes millions of dollars and yet shows her total disrespect of all Americans, who are off all races and religions. What was the point she was trying to convey ? That she has no concept of tact in a public speech ? I hope that is the last time she is ever invited to speak anywhere.

Nothing similar about the two incidents.

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14801 Manish Vij Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:59:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14801 <p>'the <a href="http://mcel.pacificu.edu/as/students/propaganda/jap.jpg">badly-drawn cartoon</a> hurt my feelings.'</p> <p>Mainstream slurs minorities: 'Stop being so sensitive, ya pussies.'</p> <p>Minority slurs mainstream: <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/001569.html">All hell breaks loose</a>.</p> ‘the badly-drawn cartoon hurt my feelings.’

Mainstream slurs minorities: ‘Stop being so sensitive, ya pussies.’

Minority slurs mainstream: All hell breaks loose.

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By: sank http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14800 sank Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:49:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14800 <p>the animated squirrel with the high-pitched voice hurt my feelings</p> the animated squirrel with the high-pitched voice hurt my feelings

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By: Lovin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/25/terrorist_tech/comment-page-1/#comment-14257 Lovin Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:24:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1765#comment-14257 <p>forget Mogambo, no one remembers Captain Zattack! from Shahenshah? I wanted him dead from the start...only bcuz he kept saying Capt Zattack! attack! over and over....</p> forget Mogambo, no one remembers Captain Zattack! from Shahenshah? I wanted him dead from the start…only bcuz he kept saying Capt Zattack! attack! over and over….

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