Comments on: When Zheng He sailed the ocean blue http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: marrsearcher http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-179793 marrsearcher Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:03:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-179793 <p>why, why, why!</p> <p>you wrote a good report but u didn't...</p> <hr /> <p>(please write complaint here)</p> why, why, why!

you wrote a good report but u didn’t…


(please write complaint here)

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By: Magnanimous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-175586 Magnanimous Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:18:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-175586 <p><u><i>I pooted ^.^</i></u></p> I pooted ^.^

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By: vic http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-104132 vic Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:57:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-104132 <p>I'am a chinese student studing in france,I was very surprised to find this web-site about zheng he, i want to write a article to introduce him to my classmates.Maybe i can answer some of your questions.</p> <p>The thesis for my paper is how the extent of china's voyages moved it into isolationalism. I've been looking and can find lots of info on the voyages but no info on the reprecussions of them.</p> <h2>If know where i can look to find them it would be great. Thank you</h2> <p>the reason china moved into isolationalism is very complicated. the most important reason is that japan sended a lot of pirates to assault the southeast china,and they supported some local force to fight against the government,which made the government very angry.So,the government sent a lot of army to southeast china,and in the same time,it forbided any ship went into the sea without the permission of the government anymore.this ban was called ''cun ban bu de xia hai'',i don't know whether you know what it means. and of course there're many other reasons.the empire was no longer strong enough for other sail like that,cause the sail was very expensive and the return was negligible,the ''great middle empire'' didn't need anything from the outworld, the only reason for sail was to boast the opulence of the dynasty.someone mentioned tribute,i don't know whether you had read some history book writen by chinese,tribute was not a reason of china's diplomatism,most of the times,the ''great middle empire'' bestowed much more than tribute.</p> I’am a chinese student studing in france,I was very surprised to find this web-site about zheng he, i want to write a article to introduce him to my classmates.Maybe i can answer some of your questions.

The thesis for my paper is how the extent of china’s voyages moved it into isolationalism. I’ve been looking and can find lots of info on the voyages but no info on the reprecussions of them.

If know where i can look to find them it would be great. Thank you

the reason china moved into isolationalism is very complicated. the most important reason is that japan sended a lot of pirates to assault the southeast china,and they supported some local force to fight against the government,which made the government very angry.So,the government sent a lot of army to southeast china,and in the same time,it forbided any ship went into the sea without the permission of the government anymore.this ban was called ”cun ban bu de xia hai”,i don’t know whether you know what it means. and of course there’re many other reasons.the empire was no longer strong enough for other sail like that,cause the sail was very expensive and the return was negligible,the ”great middle empire” didn’t need anything from the outworld, the only reason for sail was to boast the opulence of the dynasty.someone mentioned tribute,i don’t know whether you had read some history book writen by chinese,tribute was not a reason of china’s diplomatism,most of the times,the ”great middle empire” bestowed much more than tribute.

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By: Alex http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-58905 Alex Mon, 01 May 2006 04:31:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-58905 <p>Thought you might find these videos from a CNN Special from 1999 called "Millenium" and yes that is Ben Kingsley's voice doing the narration:</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/millennium/15/media.recap/video/2.1.mov.html">The routes of Zheng He's voyages</a></p> <p>and</p> <p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/millennium/15/media.recap/video/2.2.mov.html">A stunning computer animation of the Treasure Junks themselves</a></p> Thought you might find these videos from a CNN Special from 1999 called “Millenium” and yes that is Ben Kingsley’s voice doing the narration:

The routes of Zheng He’s voyages

and

A stunning computer animation of the Treasure Junks themselves

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By: Jack http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-48558 Jack Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:02:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-48558 <p>The thesis for my paper is how the extent of china's voyages moved it into isolationalism. I've been looking and can find lots of info on the voyages but no info on the reprecussions of them. If know where i can look to find them it would be great. Thank you.</p> The thesis for my paper is how the extent of china’s voyages moved it into isolationalism. I’ve been looking and can find lots of info on the voyages but no info on the reprecussions of them. If know where i can look to find them it would be great. Thank you.

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By: Joseph Forma http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-44509 Joseph Forma Fri, 03 Feb 2006 02:01:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-44509 <p>Is there a book called "the Seven Voyages of Zheng He" ? If so how can I obtain a copy?</p> <p>Many thanks</p> <p>Joseph Forma</p> Is there a book called “the Seven Voyages of Zheng He” ? If so how can I obtain a copy?

Many thanks

Joseph Forma

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By: Saurav http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-14015 Saurav Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:46:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-14015 <p>I've pretty much given up on trying to get through <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=cache:1h6qhnFCu24J:www.sephis.org/pdf/prakash.pdf">this paper</a> that sums up trade routes and other such things prior to and with the arrival of colonialism in desiland and other places in the middle east / asia. Y'all might be intersted though (please send me a summary of what happens after the dutch start trading :)</p> I’ve pretty much given up on trying to get through this paper that sums up trade routes and other such things prior to and with the arrival of colonialism in desiland and other places in the middle east / asia. Y’all might be intersted though (please send me a summary of what happens after the dutch start trading :)

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By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-13992 razib Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:54:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-13992 <p><i>maternal grandparent</i></p> <p>meant grandmother.</p> maternal grandparent

meant grandmother.

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By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-13991 razib Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:53:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-13991 <p><i>I heard that there was a Chinese colony in Quilon during the days of the spice trade...which gets me to wonder if they ever mixed with the native population. Who knows?</i></p> <p>almost for sure. why not? in the west indies the chinese have mixed promiscuously with the native substrate. in the malaysia the "baba" chinese are the results of pairings between chinese men and malay women who assimilated to the chinese culture (though plenty of malays have chinese ancestry). my maternal grandparent actually had a great-grandfather who was a chinese merchant who settled in bengal (after getting screwed over in dehli, losing all his money and not being able to afford to go back to china, or perhaps afraid to go back to china).</p> I heard that there was a Chinese colony in Quilon during the days of the spice trade…which gets me to wonder if they ever mixed with the native population. Who knows?

almost for sure. why not? in the west indies the chinese have mixed promiscuously with the native substrate. in the malaysia the “baba” chinese are the results of pairings between chinese men and malay women who assimilated to the chinese culture (though plenty of malays have chinese ancestry). my maternal grandparent actually had a great-grandfather who was a chinese merchant who settled in bengal (after getting screwed over in dehli, losing all his money and not being able to afford to go back to china, or perhaps afraid to go back to china).

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By: Oeth http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/06/23/when_zheng_he_s/comment-page-1/#comment-13990 Oeth Fri, 24 Jun 2005 03:46:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1753#comment-13990 <blockquote>I've been a chinese history and culture buff for a while (learnt mandarin for 3 years)...</blockquote> <p>Hen gao xíng yù jiàn ni. Ni hao ma?</p> I’ve been a chinese history and culture buff for a while (learnt mandarin for 3 years)…

Hen gao xíng yù jiàn ni. Ni hao ma?

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