Comments on: Pulling the wrong way

By: Saurav

Saurav — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 20:53:59 +0000

Well, don’t forget that one of the reasons there are fewer regulations over things like construction in the People’s Republic is that it’s a lot better equipped to railroad projects over people without having to worry about either their votes or their protests or their complaining in the press. As Fareed Zakaria, no free market slouch, pointed out at last years SAJA conference, democracy has a price. Miles of red tape is not a very precise answer to “what went wrong.” Bribes are bribes–by definition they are against the law and are a symptom of laws not being enforced, not laws being too stringent. Government organizations can be inefficient in implementation without being unnecessary or fundamentally misconceived, just like you can have a very nice and efficient algorithim that’s badly implemented in a way that kills memory. My main point is the lesson we should not take from this is to become more like China. Also, being efficient has a lot to do with an individual culture of moral responsibility as well.

This is far too sensible for this conversation, Saheli (although I think the contrast you draw is a little stark–India and China are both overcentralized states with inflated bureaucracies that railroad projects over people to some extent). In any case, you’re making it too difficult to make ideologically based arguments for neoliberalismo

on a tangent, i think compare and contrast on india and china is already tiresome, and yet we will have to endure like 30 more years of this nonsense.

By: BJ

BJ — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:36:25 +0000

Fighting stupidty with…more stupidty..why didn’t I think of that

American’s thought of it … they are still doing it

besides … i wasn’t serious here !!

By: Oeth

Oeth — Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:50:04 +0000

Fighting stupidty with...more stupidty...

Stupid Tea must be fought! Only gingko biloba tea for me.

By: sluggo

sluggo — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:39:17 +0000

get me some TNT while ur at it ... need to wipe these scumbags off the face of the earth!!

Fighting stupidty with...more stupidty..why didn't I think of that

By: Saheli

Saheli — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:54:42 +0000

Well, don't forget that one of the reasons there are fewer regulations over things like construction in the People's Republic is that it's a lot better equipped to railroad projects over people without having to worry about either their votes or their protests or their complaining in the press. As Fareed Zakaria, no free market slouch, pointed out at last years SAJA conference, democracy has a price. Miles of red tape is not a very precise answer to "what went wrong." Bribes are bribes--by definition they are against the law and are a symptom of laws not being enforced, not laws being too stringent. Government organizations can be inefficient in implementation without being unnecessary or fundamentally misconceived, just like you can have a very nice and efficient algorithim that's badly implemented in a way that kills memory. My main point is the lesson we should not take from this is to become more like China. Also, being efficient has a lot to do with an individual culture of moral responsibility as well.

By: epoch

epoch — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:04:43 +0000

There was an article in wired magazine a few months ago, about cops vs tech in India. Link to Article.India's Odd Couple: Cops and Tech .

I think it illustrates the situation in India on many different levels.

Bombay's new cybercrime unit -

If there is a cybercrime committed in your office, just let us know. We will find him and get the confession out of him.

By: anangbhai

anangbhai — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:20:11 +0000

Those grapes were sour anyways man. Who needs those phoren universities messing up our young who already have 2 tons worth of paper memorized right? I kid I kid. Did anyone expect anything different? If the indian govt. can hit the internet (that ebay guy who got arrested over the SMS video) they can nail anybody.

By: runnerwallah

runnerwallah — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:52:29 +0000

That really sucks...

The American university in question sounds like it might be Cornell. If so, they really screwed this one up, and hopefully press like this can bring about positive changes.

By: BJ

BJ — Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:44:59 +0000

Oh man!! this is truly said … if this is the true and complete story … would someone get me the address of AIU, AICTE & UGC … get me some TNT while ur at it … need to wipe these scumbags off the face of the earth!!

On a sidenote … what does our educated President have to say about this? I’m sure he would be disgusted if he knew of this matter too!