Comments on: ‘Dr. Death’ probably not a good doctor http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MelbourneMalayalee http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-30540 MelbourneMalayalee Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:06:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-30540 <p>In response to 'Just to be fair' where he/she said "Australia is an extremely racist country. A generation ago, its government sponsored the practice of stealing Aboriginal children..." Your ignorant and impertinent comment only proves one thing....that u must be an american. Heres a clue, comment on things that you know about....so don't comment on anything....</p> In response to ‘Just to be fair’ where he/she said “Australia is an extremely racist country. A generation ago, its government sponsored the practice of stealing Aboriginal children…” Your ignorant and impertinent comment only proves one thing….that u must be an american. Heres a clue, comment on things that you know about….so don’t comment on anything….

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By: Imported American http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-15147 Imported American Thu, 07 Jul 2005 10:01:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-15147 <p>Why is everyone so surprised (and hence debating) that the world is racist?</p> <p>On Feb 22 2002 the Seattle Times printed a headline about the Olympics that read "American Outshines Kwan"</p> <p>WTF?</p> <p>If racism exists in an ultra-liberal city like Seattle in its public media you better believe that just about everywhere else has hordes of latent KKKers waiting in the wings for a person of color to be served up in the media.</p> <p>It's not important WHERE Patel was trained or what level of quality that locale produces.</p> <p>It only matters to America that he was FOREIGN and that means bad doctors DO come from India.</p> <p>Let's debate about THAT rather than his actual training.</p> Why is everyone so surprised (and hence debating) that the world is racist?

On Feb 22 2002 the Seattle Times printed a headline about the Olympics that read “American Outshines Kwan”

WTF?

If racism exists in an ultra-liberal city like Seattle in its public media you better believe that just about everywhere else has hordes of latent KKKers waiting in the wings for a person of color to be served up in the media.

It’s not important WHERE Patel was trained or what level of quality that locale produces.

It only matters to America that he was FOREIGN and that means bad doctors DO come from India.

Let’s debate about THAT rather than his actual training.

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By: Yolanda http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-15135 Yolanda Thu, 07 Jul 2005 05:19:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-15135 <p>I personally don't see his training as affecting the way he used his skills "Indian_Australian" -- I didn't mean that he was a bad doctor because he was trained in India - just the opposite in fact.</p> <p>Where he was trained does not affect how he handles himself as a doctor - bad doctors can come from anywhere.</p> I personally don’t see his training as affecting the way he used his skills “Indian_Australian” — I didn’t mean that he was a bad doctor because he was trained in India – just the opposite in fact.

Where he was trained does not affect how he handles himself as a doctor – bad doctors can come from anywhere.

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By: The Daily Llama http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-15070 The Daily Llama Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:16:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-15070 <p>It matters not where he was trained....</p> <p>He quiet clearly lied about his background, particularly the disciplinary actions against him in the US, when applying for the possition in Australia. There also seems to be clear evidence of him altering patient records to cover his errors.</p> <p>I see no was of excusing his dishonesty and fraudulent behavior, whatever the underlying level of surgical competence may have been.</p> It matters not where he was trained….

He quiet clearly lied about his background, particularly the disciplinary actions against him in the US, when applying for the possition in Australia. There also seems to be clear evidence of him altering patient records to cover his errors.

I see no was of excusing his dishonesty and fraudulent behavior, whatever the underlying level of surgical competence may have been.

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By: Imported American http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-14269 Imported American Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:19:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-14269 <p>It's interesting to see how vested interests influence the opinions of people who basically see the same "facts"</p> <p>The truth is probably somewhere between astounding incompetence by the good doctor along with the medical profession (both in the US and Australia) and that he was at one time in possession of an "above average knowledge of surgery"</p> <p>Who knows.</p> <p>Personally, I do think Fatal Patel was at one time good, turned bad (perhaps due to a love-lost...) and then coasted on his credentials to the destiny he finds himself in today. BTW - ALL doctors make mistakes and many get people killed. 87 seems excessive though even for a swashbuckling surgeon like Indiana Patel.</p> <p>A couple of observations from personal experience:</p> <p>Australia is an astoundingly racist country. When they opened up the telecomm industry to competition, The TV ads run by Australia Telecomm (the entrenched incumbent) denouncing Optus (the upstart competitor) was nothing less than outright Xenophobic provocation. (Optus was backed by a US company after all...ironically it was MCI)</p> <p>Influential professions, such as medicine, breed hidebound, monolithic organizations which "circle the wagons" when ANY of its members is under attack. They may sacrifice that individual but the organizations will certainly not take accountability for much of anything. In this case, it seems to be applicable to both US and Australian sanctioning bodies both of which are digging up all kinds of documentation about the goodness of their past actions. I'm surprised the MP Shah Medical College has not thrown its own hat of inculpability in the ring. In effect medical organizations on at least two continents are colluding without intent. Same results as explicit collusion however. And people say that large organizations are inefficient...</p> <p>As far as Dr. Giant Poodle is concerned, he ran and hid for a reason. If some kind of adverse selection was taking place with the good doctor then that should be EASILY borne out in a simple categorization and (non-medical) analysis of his medical records (most doctors I know have more patient records than they know what to do with)</p> <p>He did himself a disservice and fanned the flames of his own demise by pulling an OJ (i.e., running), then posing as his own brother, hiding out then hiring a lawyer in the US (where he is NOT currently being charged with a crime) to defend charges from a country with which we have no extradition agreement. (maybe he should be hiring a media consultant, or OJ maybe...)</p> <p>The reality is that he's already been tried in the media. The salacious details of this case will outclass the plain, boring, methodical details that due process will require.</p> <p>So stick a fork in him, cuz he's done.</p> It’s interesting to see how vested interests influence the opinions of people who basically see the same “facts”

The truth is probably somewhere between astounding incompetence by the good doctor along with the medical profession (both in the US and Australia) and that he was at one time in possession of an “above average knowledge of surgery”

Who knows.

Personally, I do think Fatal Patel was at one time good, turned bad (perhaps due to a love-lost…) and then coasted on his credentials to the destiny he finds himself in today. BTW – ALL doctors make mistakes and many get people killed. 87 seems excessive though even for a swashbuckling surgeon like Indiana Patel.

A couple of observations from personal experience:

Australia is an astoundingly racist country. When they opened up the telecomm industry to competition, The TV ads run by Australia Telecomm (the entrenched incumbent) denouncing Optus (the upstart competitor) was nothing less than outright Xenophobic provocation. (Optus was backed by a US company after all…ironically it was MCI)

Influential professions, such as medicine, breed hidebound, monolithic organizations which “circle the wagons” when ANY of its members is under attack. They may sacrifice that individual but the organizations will certainly not take accountability for much of anything. In this case, it seems to be applicable to both US and Australian sanctioning bodies both of which are digging up all kinds of documentation about the goodness of their past actions. I’m surprised the MP Shah Medical College has not thrown its own hat of inculpability in the ring. In effect medical organizations on at least two continents are colluding without intent. Same results as explicit collusion however. And people say that large organizations are inefficient…

As far as Dr. Giant Poodle is concerned, he ran and hid for a reason. If some kind of adverse selection was taking place with the good doctor then that should be EASILY borne out in a simple categorization and (non-medical) analysis of his medical records (most doctors I know have more patient records than they know what to do with)

He did himself a disservice and fanned the flames of his own demise by pulling an OJ (i.e., running), then posing as his own brother, hiding out then hiring a lawyer in the US (where he is NOT currently being charged with a crime) to defend charges from a country with which we have no extradition agreement. (maybe he should be hiring a media consultant, or OJ maybe…)

The reality is that he’s already been tried in the media. The salacious details of this case will outclass the plain, boring, methodical details that due process will require.

So stick a fork in him, cuz he’s done.

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By: gonna http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-14200 gonna Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:08:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-14200 <p>Dr Jayant Patel (Dr Death) is a real butcher, he is a murderer!!! He should serve life in prison, or serve the death penalty. Dr Patel, being a professional of such nature (surgeon) and highly qualified, it was his intention to kill and take the lives of those patients he treated. Given the circumstances in his cases, he deliberatly wanted to kill his patients and he did so indirectly by using his own profession as a scapegoet.</p> <p>Dr Jayant Patel, is fortunate to be gifted to become a doctor and be highly recognised in his working days, but instead of taking the opportunity to treat patients and cure them and do a service to people and the community (which not many people have the qualifications/capacity of doing), he intentionally misuses his power and takes the lives of most of his treated patients, whenever he finds the opportunity to do so.</p> Dr Jayant Patel (Dr Death) is a real butcher, he is a murderer!!! He should serve life in prison, or serve the death penalty. Dr Patel, being a professional of such nature (surgeon) and highly qualified, it was his intention to kill and take the lives of those patients he treated. Given the circumstances in his cases, he deliberatly wanted to kill his patients and he did so indirectly by using his own profession as a scapegoet.

Dr Jayant Patel, is fortunate to be gifted to become a doctor and be highly recognised in his working days, but instead of taking the opportunity to treat patients and cure them and do a service to people and the community (which not many people have the qualifications/capacity of doing), he intentionally misuses his power and takes the lives of most of his treated patients, whenever he finds the opportunity to do so.

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By: Reader http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-13946 Reader Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:08:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-13946 <p>A link to medical discussions.</p> <p>http://patelevent0.tripod.com/</p> <p>Interesting reading</p> A link to medical discussions.

http://patelevent0.tripod.com/

Interesting reading

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By: Australian_Indian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-13941 Australian_Indian Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:23:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-13941 <p>Yolanda,</p> <p>Have you forgotten when Australian university trained people ran a company making dangerous medicines in Australia. The name of the company was Pan pharmaceuticals which was closed.</p> <p>The complaints from some was that medicine powders were thrown on the floor and mixed with wrong types in medicines.</p> <p>Think about it again and remember keep saying to yourself that those managers were Australian educated and trained. Also make the fact well known to the rest of the world if you wish to repeat about Indian training creating bad people.</p> <p>http://www.tga.health.gov.au/recalls/pan.htm</p> <p>We are all guilty as human beings. The main reason is greed for money.</p> Yolanda,

Have you forgotten when Australian university trained people ran a company making dangerous medicines in Australia. The name of the company was Pan pharmaceuticals which was closed.

The complaints from some was that medicine powders were thrown on the floor and mixed with wrong types in medicines.

Think about it again and remember keep saying to yourself that those managers were Australian educated and trained. Also make the fact well known to the rest of the world if you wish to repeat about Indian training creating bad people.

http://www.tga.health.gov.au/recalls/pan.htm

We are all guilty as human beings. The main reason is greed for money.

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By: Ajay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-13937 Ajay Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:38:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-13937 <p>Perhaps we should just say that he was trained both in India and the USA .</p> Perhaps we should just say that he was trained both in India and the USA .

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By: Yolanda http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/28/dr_death_probab/comment-page-1/#comment-13861 Yolanda Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:02:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1651#comment-13861 <p>If he wasn't Indian trained, then why on earth was he the resident surgeon of Irwin Group of Hospitals in Jamnagar, India, before he moved to the US?!?!?!?!</p> If he wasn’t Indian trained, then why on earth was he the resident surgeon of Irwin Group of Hospitals in Jamnagar, India, before he moved to the US?!?!?!?!

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