Comments on: Jersey Guys apologize (updated) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sahej http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-63429 Sahej Sat, 20 May 2006 23:37:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-63429 <p>which people are you refering to? who is "you people"? Are you going to take a look at the very few people who've commented, or are you assuming that "you people" is everyone who reads this blog? I think you're lumping people together and claiming that "we" are all the same.</p> <p>its all well and good to tell other people about not being racist, but when you sit here and talk about "you people" and a commentor talks about "minorities" as if its one mass of people, you're lumping people together.</p> <p>Its very understandable to be upset because people are treating you as something you're not because of the color of your skin. And so, what are you doing, you're complaining.</p> <p>I'm sure if you tried to understand, you could. When a show that's on the public airwaves demeans a group of people, those people will be uncomfortable. If you ever had the idea to go to India, or China for that matter, you would not feel all that comfortable if people on the radio made fun or you because you were originally from the U.S. There's a big difference between prefering not to be demeaned and "complaining" for no reason.</p> <p>We're all human beings right. So why not give other people the respect and understanding it takes to acknowledge that demeaning a group of people is not something anyone should be forced to be comfortable with.</p> <p>You're not getting to the reality of the situation, which is, if it was just a matter of not listening to one radio station, that's not a problem for most people.</p> which people are you refering to? who is “you people”? Are you going to take a look at the very few people who’ve commented, or are you assuming that “you people” is everyone who reads this blog? I think you’re lumping people together and claiming that “we” are all the same.

its all well and good to tell other people about not being racist, but when you sit here and talk about “you people” and a commentor talks about “minorities” as if its one mass of people, you’re lumping people together.

Its very understandable to be upset because people are treating you as something you’re not because of the color of your skin. And so, what are you doing, you’re complaining.

I’m sure if you tried to understand, you could. When a show that’s on the public airwaves demeans a group of people, those people will be uncomfortable. If you ever had the idea to go to India, or China for that matter, you would not feel all that comfortable if people on the radio made fun or you because you were originally from the U.S. There’s a big difference between prefering not to be demeaned and “complaining” for no reason.

We’re all human beings right. So why not give other people the respect and understanding it takes to acknowledge that demeaning a group of people is not something anyone should be forced to be comfortable with.

You’re not getting to the reality of the situation, which is, if it was just a matter of not listening to one radio station, that’s not a problem for most people.

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By: Scott http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-63427 Scott Sat, 20 May 2006 22:32:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-63427 <p>You people are ridiculous. <b>Freedom of speech</b>. I guess its safe to say that you all are people who wanted Stern off the air as well. Don't listen to them if you do not like what they say. It is fairly simple. Or you can continue to bitch about it. People like you are kicking freedom of speech right out of the country.</p> You people are ridiculous. Freedom of speech. I guess its safe to say that you all are people who wanted Stern off the air as well. Don’t listen to them if you do not like what they say. It is fairly simple. Or you can continue to bitch about it. People like you are kicking freedom of speech right out of the country.

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-14023 A N N A Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:42:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-14023 <blockquote>Sound like there is more racism on this board than on the jersey guys?</blockquote> <p>uh, where?</p> Sound like there is more racism on this board than on the jersey guys?

uh, where?

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By: Mike http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-14018 Mike Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:14:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-14018 <p>Sound like there is more racism on this board than on the jersey guys? Just like everthing in life, get the whole story before you spew your hate speech.</p> Sound like there is more racism on this board than on the jersey guys? Just like everthing in life, get the whole story before you spew your hate speech.

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By: Choi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12149 Choi Tue, 31 May 2005 06:40:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12149 <p>Jersey Guys Show is up on the <a href="http://www.junchoi.com/Community">Jun Choi Blog</a>.</p> Jersey Guys Show is up on the Jun Choi Blog.

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By: brimful http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12063 brimful Sat, 28 May 2005 01:57:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12063 <blockquote>To me, it smacks of the (male) apology - "I'm sorry you're upset", i.e. I take no responsibility for any of my actions that may have upset you. (Although I call it the male apology, I have used it when that's the idea I was trying to get across.)</blockquote> <p>Ah, what my friends and I like to call the "I'm sorry you misunderstood" apology-that's-really-an-insult.</p> To me, it smacks of the (male) apology – “I’m sorry you’re upset”, i.e. I take no responsibility for any of my actions that may have upset you. (Although I call it the male apology, I have used it when that’s the idea I was trying to get across.)

Ah, what my friends and I like to call the “I’m sorry you misunderstood” apology-that’s-really-an-insult.

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By: Amar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12048 Amar Sat, 28 May 2005 00:02:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12048 <p>This is not an apology. It's complete bull shit. The only reason these racists get to stay on the air is because they are racists whites.</p> <p>It's a vicious cycle -- whites see lots of non-whites in their community, the whites become insecure and racist, they get to hear their insecurities validated on the air by equally insecure and racist radio hosts, the radio station makes money off of the symbiotic relationship between insecure racist white listeners and insecure racist hosts.</p> <p>Racists who promote anger and hate should just be off the air. They do a diservice to our community and lend credence to the idea that anyone whose skin color isn't theirs, isn't American and should not have a say in how our communties run. These racists only made their quarter-ass apology after their radio station realized their racism may affect their bottomline. Our communities need to call for more sponsor boycotts of racist broadcasters.</p> <p>This apology is not an apology. They should be fired.</p> This is not an apology. It’s complete bull shit. The only reason these racists get to stay on the air is because they are racists whites.

It’s a vicious cycle — whites see lots of non-whites in their community, the whites become insecure and racist, they get to hear their insecurities validated on the air by equally insecure and racist radio hosts, the radio station makes money off of the symbiotic relationship between insecure racist white listeners and insecure racist hosts.

Racists who promote anger and hate should just be off the air. They do a diservice to our community and lend credence to the idea that anyone whose skin color isn’t theirs, isn’t American and should not have a say in how our communties run. These racists only made their quarter-ass apology after their radio station realized their racism may affect their bottomline. Our communities need to call for more sponsor boycotts of racist broadcasters.

This apology is not an apology. They should be fired.

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By: deepa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12040 deepa Fri, 27 May 2005 22:28:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12040 <p>Dude, is this even an apology? i.e. "this is what we always do, no matter what we're talking about...it was 'tongue-in-cheek.... the majority of what we do is satire, we never intend to hurt one specific person, or any specific group'" blah blah blah.</p> <p>To me, it smacks of the (male) apology - "I'm sorry you're upset", i.e. I take no responsibility for any of my actions that may have upset you. (Although I call it the male apology, I have used it when that's the idea I was trying to get across.)</p> <p>-D</p> Dude, is this even an apology? i.e. “this is what we always do, no matter what we’re talking about…it was ‘tongue-in-cheek…. the majority of what we do is satire, we never intend to hurt one specific person, or any specific group’” blah blah blah.

To me, it smacks of the (male) apology – “I’m sorry you’re upset”, i.e. I take no responsibility for any of my actions that may have upset you. (Although I call it the male apology, I have used it when that’s the idea I was trying to get across.)

-D

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12022 DesiDancer Fri, 27 May 2005 19:35:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12022 <blockquote>I think they knew that this would get people riled up - they are in the entertainment business after all, this is their bread & butter.</blockquote> <p>I think the apology is complete bakwaas. I would venture to speculate most of us hadn't heard of the Jersey Guys previous to this incident, yet now, most of us would be hard pressed to forget their identity and call-letters. Sadly, in a year, nobody will remember the name of the mayoral candidate.</p> <p>As they say, any press is good press... I find the apology superficial and insulting, but I can't say how I'd like it otherwise resolved...</p> I think they knew that this would get people riled up – they are in the entertainment business after all, this is their bread & butter.

I think the apology is complete bakwaas. I would venture to speculate most of us hadn’t heard of the Jersey Guys previous to this incident, yet now, most of us would be hard pressed to forget their identity and call-letters. Sadly, in a year, nobody will remember the name of the mayoral candidate.

As they say, any press is good press… I find the apology superficial and insulting, but I can’t say how I’d like it otherwise resolved…

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By: MD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/26/jersey_guys_to/comment-page-1/#comment-12018 MD Fri, 27 May 2005 19:16:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1644#comment-12018 <p>I hear you Manish. Please, please, please, Mr. President. Veto something (besides the stem cell thing....)</p> I hear you Manish. Please, please, please, Mr. President. Veto something (besides the stem cell thing….)

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