Comments on: “My little brown man” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Informed http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-14313 Informed Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:12:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-14313 <p>ok what this author failed to inform you is that he was NOT fired based on his race or anything to do with it. He was fired for stealing and other things along that lines. He tried taking the case to the commision for equal oppurtunity employment or something like that and they laughed in his face basically and said he had no case and then he brought it to the state and they did the same thing so he had no other choice but to snag a lawyer and bring it federal. Doesnt that say something that the guys at the equal oppurtunity place didnt give a damn?! it should. he has no case and theres no way in this lifetime that he will be getting a penny and i am actually certain of that. He was let go a long time ago and if this all was actually true it would have been brought up a long time ago. Also it is not a fair stereotype to say that all car dealerships do that.</p> ok what this author failed to inform you is that he was NOT fired based on his race or anything to do with it. He was fired for stealing and other things along that lines. He tried taking the case to the commision for equal oppurtunity employment or something like that and they laughed in his face basically and said he had no case and then he brought it to the state and they did the same thing so he had no other choice but to snag a lawyer and bring it federal. Doesnt that say something that the guys at the equal oppurtunity place didnt give a damn?! it should. he has no case and theres no way in this lifetime that he will be getting a penny and i am actually certain of that. He was let go a long time ago and if this all was actually true it would have been brought up a long time ago. Also it is not a fair stereotype to say that all car dealerships do that.

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By: vurdlife http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11947 vurdlife Thu, 26 May 2005 22:55:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11947 <blockquote>racism is really bad. but...i knew that. i would personally like to see more posts about brown american culture (something i don't know much about to be honest). </blockquote> <p>Peeps peep this site from the UK, India, Pak, and elsewhere also.</p> <p>And given the fact that every time an arguably racist event comes up on sepia, some people (usually the same people) poo-poo it and downplay its significance...(and I mean EVERY time)...you would think racism didn't exist or weren't a problem....The Jersey Guys were just expressing themselves, Colonialism helped India, the car dealers were just joking, Hindu gods on clothing are kosher....I mean damn.</p> <p>(Yeah I know the retort....some of us probably think EVERYthing is racist...however, I think the usual opponents to racist incidents, such as Saurav for instance, put a lot thought into it and provide atypical reactions)</p> racism is really bad. but…i knew that. i would personally like to see more posts about brown american culture (something i don’t know much about to be honest).

Peeps peep this site from the UK, India, Pak, and elsewhere also.

And given the fact that every time an arguably racist event comes up on sepia, some people (usually the same people) poo-poo it and downplay its significance…(and I mean EVERY time)…you would think racism didn’t exist or weren’t a problem….The Jersey Guys were just expressing themselves, Colonialism helped India, the car dealers were just joking, Hindu gods on clothing are kosher….I mean damn.

(Yeah I know the retort….some of us probably think EVERYthing is racist…however, I think the usual opponents to racist incidents, such as Saurav for instance, put a lot thought into it and provide atypical reactions)

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By: vivek http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11925 vivek Thu, 26 May 2005 19:55:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11925 <p>DesiDancer is right. I was called a "curryhead" once and I went back and asked the guy in a loud voice, "What did you say?". Got an apology...</p> DesiDancer is right. I was called a “curryhead” once and I went back and asked the guy in a loud voice, “What did you say?”. Got an apology…

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By: Saurav http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11915 Saurav Thu, 26 May 2005 18:57:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11915 <blockquote>And I wonder if my opinion and Salil's (i.e. not thinking this incident was terribly bad) were influenced because of where we grew up (the South). Just food for thought, maybe it isn't the case.</blockquote> <p>runnerwalla, I wouldn't doubt it. I probably do tend to take things like this in a different light having lived preity much my entire life in the northeast. I have very little personal experience with race-based discrimination (relative to other folks that have posted on this blog in the past), although I am learning more and more about what other people in my bangali community dealt with when they first came here (most recently learned that a family friend was <em>told</em> he would not be allowed to buy a house in the 1970s in the Bronx because of de facto segregation).</p> <p>But the reason why this gets me is exactly what you pointed to--that it might be part of a system of discrimination, complete with culture that discriminates, economic consequences, money, etc. I'm not saying it is clearly an instance of discrimination, because like I said, I don't think there's enough to go on from the post (and i'm too lazy to read the article:) but I wouldn't be surprised if it were. "Cry me a f@#kin river" isn't the most sympathetic of responses to someone facing a perhaps milder version of what you guys went through (I know you didn't say this and i'm not lumping you together...just that you brought up salil's comment).</p> <p>Also, my family bought a car recently, and now I have some personal antipathy towards car dealers for trying to strongarm you into doing things, manipulating numbers, and generally being pushy and not being straightforward--it's no surprise to me that women and minorities end up paying less b/c (very generally speaking) I would guess they have less of a sense of entitlement to stand up for themselves than White men. Not all of us, I'm sure--just more of us than White men.</p> And I wonder if my opinion and Salil’s (i.e. not thinking this incident was terribly bad) were influenced because of where we grew up (the South). Just food for thought, maybe it isn’t the case.

runnerwalla, I wouldn’t doubt it. I probably do tend to take things like this in a different light having lived preity much my entire life in the northeast. I have very little personal experience with race-based discrimination (relative to other folks that have posted on this blog in the past), although I am learning more and more about what other people in my bangali community dealt with when they first came here (most recently learned that a family friend was told he would not be allowed to buy a house in the 1970s in the Bronx because of de facto segregation).

But the reason why this gets me is exactly what you pointed to–that it might be part of a system of discrimination, complete with culture that discriminates, economic consequences, money, etc. I’m not saying it is clearly an instance of discrimination, because like I said, I don’t think there’s enough to go on from the post (and i’m too lazy to read the article:) but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were. “Cry me a f@#kin river” isn’t the most sympathetic of responses to someone facing a perhaps milder version of what you guys went through (I know you didn’t say this and i’m not lumping you together…just that you brought up salil’s comment).

Also, my family bought a car recently, and now I have some personal antipathy towards car dealers for trying to strongarm you into doing things, manipulating numbers, and generally being pushy and not being straightforward–it’s no surprise to me that women and minorities end up paying less b/c (very generally speaking) I would guess they have less of a sense of entitlement to stand up for themselves than White men. Not all of us, I’m sure–just more of us than White men.

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11904 DesiDancer Thu, 26 May 2005 17:18:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11904 <p>isn't it kind of <em>our</em> problem to say "WHAT did you call me??" when spoken to in a manner like outlined in this post? Isn't it our responsibility to stand up for ourselves or call racism and ignorance on the carpet? I'm not saying to start a fight, but a well placed "I'm not sure what you mean by that..." usually does well.</p> isn’t it kind of our problem to say “WHAT did you call me??” when spoken to in a manner like outlined in this post? Isn’t it our responsibility to stand up for ourselves or call racism and ignorance on the carpet? I’m not saying to start a fight, but a well placed “I’m not sure what you mean by that…” usually does well.

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By: bl00t http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11886 bl00t Thu, 26 May 2005 15:33:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11886 <p>I bet you wont find this in a Honda, Nissan or Toyota dealership. Chevy is a piece of junk anyway - serves them Desis right, who work and buy these tin cans on wheels.</p> I bet you wont find this in a Honda, Nissan or Toyota dealership. Chevy is a piece of junk anyway – serves them Desis right, who work and buy these tin cans on wheels.

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By: iDESI http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11883 iDESI Thu, 26 May 2005 15:14:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11883 <p>Stinkin' CHEVY!</p> Stinkin’ CHEVY!

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11854 Abhi Thu, 26 May 2005 08:03:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11854 <p>Ummm. This wasn't a post intended to point out racism. I don't even think I'd call what happened "racist." It was a post intended to show that discrimination isn't always clear. Lot's of us have been called "little brown man" or something like that as a couple of commenters pointed out. I write posts like this to hear other peoples experiences in the comments section and not for the story itself. The people that I EXPECT to not care for a particular post, end up not caring for it. I had never planned on catering to everyone.</p> Ummm. This wasn’t a post intended to point out racism. I don’t even think I’d call what happened “racist.” It was a post intended to show that discrimination isn’t always clear. Lot’s of us have been called “little brown man” or something like that as a couple of commenters pointed out. I write posts like this to hear other peoples experiences in the comments section and not for the story itself. The people that I EXPECT to not care for a particular post, end up not caring for it. I had never planned on catering to everyone.

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By: razib http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11851 razib Thu, 26 May 2005 07:40:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11851 <p>racism is really bad. but...i knew that. i would personally like to see more posts about brown <i>american</i> culture (something i don't know much about to be honest). your blog of course, but i doubt i'm the only regular reader in that boat....</p> racism is really bad. but…i knew that. i would personally like to see more posts about brown american culture (something i don’t know much about to be honest). your blog of course, but i doubt i’m the only regular reader in that boat….

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By: Abhi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/05/25/my_little_brown/comment-page-1/#comment-11847 Abhi Thu, 26 May 2005 07:18:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1636#comment-11847 <p>"<em>Maybe some bad puns by abhi or..." </em></p> <p>I resent that. I have never employed any puns in my posts. I think you are confusing me with Manish.</p> Maybe some bad puns by abhi or…”

I resent that. I have never employed any puns in my posts. I think you are confusing me with Manish.

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