Hitler originally railed against desis in Mein Kampf, but he softened his tone during his meetings with Subhash Chandranath Bose.

Interestingly, Indians fought on both sides of WWII.

These shifty allegiances were all a matter of convenience. As ASR said,

they both would like to see the brownies dead sooner or later.

to Hitler a Indian was to be sent directly to hell. To Churchill an Indian was to be worked to death and every drop of profit was to be squeezed out of him and then he should be sent to hell.

They are equally as bad. The UK was finished as a world power before 1939, the Second World War only proved as a catalyst to their downfall.

Churchill was great for speeches and hot air, even if the UK had been invaded sooner of later the Americans would have entered the war to maintain the balance of power in Europe. And the the US would have been able to retake Europe from North Africa, Ireland, Sicily, anywhere. It would have cost more men and supplies but the Americans barely broke a sweat in that war. The fact is that 80% of the German Army was on the Eastern front fighting the Soviets, so really the Brits and the US were not the main concern of the Germans. Churchill was great for grandizing Britains role, but really the UK didnt do much. Monty won in El Alamien out of sheer numbers and supply benefits, Monty almost screwed the game in Sciliy and Italy, and then again in the Netherlands.

Churchill was there just for photo ops and to later on be America’s deputy/poodle in Europe. A role that they are playing to this very day incredibly well.

To me Churchill and Hitler are equally as bad, they both would like to see the brownies dead sooner or later. One would smile and stab me in the back, the other would frown and do it.

The British and American publics share a sunny view of the second world war. For apologists of the British Empire, such as Niall Ferguson, the war was an ethical bath where the sins of centuries of conquest, slavery and exploitation were expiated. We are marked forever as “the good guys”and can all happily chant “Two world wars and one world cup.”

Â…Â….. Hitler’s dream was inspired, in part, by the British EmpireÂ….. In Western Europe, they sought their India from which revenues, labour and soldiers might be extracted.

• I mentioned this conversation to a friend of mine who is a Pole, who found it astounding, at first. But then, all this about Yalta this week, so…..

Ok, then. I stand down.

thanks for a fascinating discussion, guys.

Some kind of Indian federal union would still have formed.

you meant this:

Smaller economic units tend to consolidate given enough time where there are economies of scale (countries, EU, NAFTA, most U.S. industries)

I don’t disagree, and I’m too tired to argue that they’re not equivalent.