Comments on: Evangelical ghazals http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: B.R.Ivan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-266319 B.R.Ivan Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:44:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-266319 <p>IVAN from Bombay</p> <pre><code> Ghazals are not of Islamic origin.They are of Jewish origin.First Ghazals were written by King Solomon.they are translated in English Bible as Songs of Solomon.it is actually the love Poems. </code></pre> IVAN from Bombay

 Ghazals are not of Islamic origin.They are of Jewish origin.First Ghazals were written by King Solomon.they are translated in English Bible as Songs of Solomon.it is actually the love Poems.
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By: DeannaBelle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-40807 DeannaBelle Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:51:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-40807 <p>You'll have to forgive Christian television. I'm pretty sure that, like, every Christian broadcast is done in the American south or by some southerner. I thought that comment about the uncle glasses replacing big hair and blue sequins was pretty funny. So true!! If TBN is, like, the #1 world-wide (technically, I can't say they have a monopoloy because they don't so much as generate money as need it) channel for Christian television, and every program is produced by the same weirdos, what do the other counrties think about Christians? I mean, if they go by what they see on TBN?!</p> <p>Also, I quote your note, "Requests for celebrities' contact info or homework assistance; racist, abusive, illiterate, content-free or commercial comments; personal, non-issue-focused flames; intolerant or anti-secular comments; and long, obscure rants may be deleted. Unless theyÂ’re funny. ItÂ’s all good then."</p> <p>Anti-secular? You josh about these guys, making fun of a religious thing (is does look pretty funny), but then don't want "anti-secular" comments? This makes no sense. You're talking about an anti-secular subject here, homeboy!!!</p> <p>And dear, Bak,</p> <p>Forgiveness, the staple of the Christian religion, is "inclusive" as it applies to everyone. You can say what you want about Christians, but it is Christ you must know. Every other religion is based on merit. MEASURING OUR OWN MERIT has always been the source of evil and leads to EXLCUSIVENESS. But it is by Christ's merit that we are all rendered equal.</p> You’ll have to forgive Christian television. I’m pretty sure that, like, every Christian broadcast is done in the American south or by some southerner. I thought that comment about the uncle glasses replacing big hair and blue sequins was pretty funny. So true!! If TBN is, like, the #1 world-wide (technically, I can’t say they have a monopoloy because they don’t so much as generate money as need it) channel for Christian television, and every program is produced by the same weirdos, what do the other counrties think about Christians? I mean, if they go by what they see on TBN?!

Also, I quote your note, “Requests for celebrities’ contact info or homework assistance; racist, abusive, illiterate, content-free or commercial comments; personal, non-issue-focused flames; intolerant or anti-secular comments; and long, obscure rants may be deleted. Unless theyÂ’re funny. ItÂ’s all good then.”

Anti-secular? You josh about these guys, making fun of a religious thing (is does look pretty funny), but then don’t want “anti-secular” comments? This makes no sense. You’re talking about an anti-secular subject here, homeboy!!!

And dear, Bak,

Forgiveness, the staple of the Christian religion, is “inclusive” as it applies to everyone. You can say what you want about Christians, but it is Christ you must know. Every other religion is based on merit. MEASURING OUR OWN MERIT has always been the source of evil and leads to EXLCUSIVENESS. But it is by Christ’s merit that we are all rendered equal.

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By: bak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6692 bak Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:06:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6692 <p>Actually Hinduism is categorized as one of the world's 'inclusive' religions, where religious figures in other religions become avatars of the traditional Hindu gods.</p> <p>Most other religions, like Christianity, are categorized as 'exclusive', where religious figures in other religions are pagans.</p> Actually Hinduism is categorized as one of the world’s ‘inclusive’ religions, where religious figures in other religions become avatars of the traditional Hindu gods.

Most other religions, like Christianity, are categorized as ‘exclusive’, where religious figures in other religions are pagans.

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By: vurdlife http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6676 vurdlife Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:51:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6676 <blockquote>They even beam it out to Long Island where I used to live - where non a brown person was to be found. Go figure. </blockquote> <p>Mad malu christians live out in long island.</p> They even beam it out to Long Island where I used to live – where non a brown person was to be found. Go figure.

Mad malu christians live out in long island.

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By: sd http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6660 sd Thu, 31 Mar 2005 05:25:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6660 <p>Christian ghazals are not uncommon, but bhajans are the dominant "devotional" form for Indian Christians. And, if I'm correct, in Christian ghazals, God is usually referred to as the "beloved" and not "Yeshu"... Christian ghazals, if written, were usually done so by artists who stuck to form and always spoke of "love," but in the divine and sublime sense.</p> <p>Who knows, it could have been a knock-off, like Kenny G as jazz, etc..</p> <p>("American-style televangelism" actually began over on that side of the world with overzealous missionaries who needed to create a sense of "power" via theatrics in order to awe the masses in a manner similar to "indigenous" religions; Billy Graham, although not so theatrical, was the first to broadcast his missions from the around the world, which is how televangelism started)</p> <p>The "uncle glasses" are what take the place of blue hair and sequin-suits, by the way; the women, as you may have noticed, still have bad perms.</p> Christian ghazals are not uncommon, but bhajans are the dominant “devotional” form for Indian Christians. And, if I’m correct, in Christian ghazals, God is usually referred to as the “beloved” and not “Yeshu”… Christian ghazals, if written, were usually done so by artists who stuck to form and always spoke of “love,” but in the divine and sublime sense.

Who knows, it could have been a knock-off, like Kenny G as jazz, etc..

(“American-style televangelism” actually began over on that side of the world with overzealous missionaries who needed to create a sense of “power” via theatrics in order to awe the masses in a manner similar to “indigenous” religions; Billy Graham, although not so theatrical, was the first to broadcast his missions from the around the world, which is how televangelism started)

The “uncle glasses” are what take the place of blue hair and sequin-suits, by the way; the women, as you may have noticed, still have bad perms.

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By: Saheli http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6656 Saheli Thu, 31 Mar 2005 04:50:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6656 <p>Bhajans can have a tabla line that's not obviously clap along. But yeah, the rest of your evidence points to Ghazals.</p> <p>My sister always likes to say that Hinduisum has enormous powers of digestion.</p> Bhajans can have a tabla line that’s not obviously clap along. But yeah, the rest of your evidence points to Ghazals.

My sister always likes to say that Hinduisum has enormous powers of digestion.

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By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6628 DesiDancer Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:20:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6628 <p>what IS it with the Uncle glasses, anyway?</p> what IS it with the Uncle glasses, anyway?

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By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6623 Manish Vij Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:44:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6623 <p>I'm not sure of the technical differences between ghazals and bhajans, but this sounded distinctly like a ghazal to me: off notes, melancholy rather than sweet, a Jagjit and Chitra feel. The tabla line wasn't the clap-along kind found in many bhajans.</p> I’m not sure of the technical differences between ghazals and bhajans, but this sounded distinctly like a ghazal to me: off notes, melancholy rather than sweet, a Jagjit and Chitra feel. The tabla line wasn’t the clap-along kind found in many bhajans.

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By: AK http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6622 AK Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:37:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6622 <p>I went to a Catholic school in Bombay where we had to sing these sort of hymns in hindi with words like 'prabhu' and 'eeshwar' for Jesus.</p> I went to a Catholic school in Bombay where we had to sing these sort of hymns in hindi with words like ‘prabhu’ and ‘eeshwar’ for Jesus.

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By: Shashwati http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/03/30/christian_ghaza/comment-page-1/#comment-6620 Shashwati Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:26:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1275#comment-6620 <p>Actually hymns in Hindi, sounding very much like bhajans have been around forever. I remember attending services with my best friend in school, and hearing "bhajans" to Yesu. I have even been to revivalist meetings under a big tent, all in Hindi and very much like a jagaran. And can attest to the Hindus going to gurdwaras, which drives the hard-core neo Hindus bananas, as was said to me by someone who describes herself as "kattar" Hindu, which sort of translates as uber-Hindu.</p> Actually hymns in Hindi, sounding very much like bhajans have been around forever. I remember attending services with my best friend in school, and hearing “bhajans” to Yesu. I have even been to revivalist meetings under a big tent, all in Hindi and very much like a jagaran. And can attest to the Hindus going to gurdwaras, which drives the hard-core neo Hindus bananas, as was said to me by someone who describes herself as “kattar” Hindu, which sort of translates as uber-Hindu.

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