Comments on: “Brothels” nabs Oscar; “Terrorist” comes up short http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: nubian prince http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-6203 nubian prince Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:45:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-6203 <p>"All the proceeds of the Kids-With-Cameras organization's sales of the prints and book copies are to go to forming a school directly for the children of the sex workers in Calcutta."</p> <p>Wrong! Some of it goes to their new $3600 office space located in trendy Nolita, Manhattan! Guess who the landlord is??? His initials are RK. HAHAHA!</p> “All the proceeds of the Kids-With-Cameras organization’s sales of the prints and book copies are to go to forming a school directly for the children of the sex workers in Calcutta.”

Wrong! Some of it goes to their new $3600 office space located in trendy Nolita, Manhattan! Guess who the landlord is??? His initials are RK. HAHAHA!

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By: jkmerengue http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-6092 jkmerengue Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:09:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-6092 <p>I saw this film at the AFI-sponsored SilverDocs Festival where it won the Audience Award. I was very moved by it and by getting the opportunity to speak with Ross Kauffman for the better part of an hour after the showing.</p> <p>Mr. Kauffman's sincerity seemed genuine to me. They seem to be very concerned about protecting the children and said they never plan to show the film in India, just to be sure of that safety. All the proceeds of the Kids-With-Cameras organization's sales of the prints and book copies are to go to forming a school directly for the children of the sex workers in Calcutta.</p> <p>I don't know about the typical American's response to the film as I am fairly aware of current Indian cinema, both Bollywood and Regional, but as a non-desi viewer, I feel that in no way was Briski and Kauffman's project setting out to single out Calcutta as the only place in the world that has poverty, crime and mistreatment of children. We are smart enough to know that these miseries are worldwide. She just set the focus on the place where she worked and illustrated the conditions she found. We do well to look at it and then respond to that cause, and others, as we are able. I applaud them for their attempt.</p> I saw this film at the AFI-sponsored SilverDocs Festival where it won the Audience Award. I was very moved by it and by getting the opportunity to speak with Ross Kauffman for the better part of an hour after the showing.

Mr. Kauffman’s sincerity seemed genuine to me. They seem to be very concerned about protecting the children and said they never plan to show the film in India, just to be sure of that safety. All the proceeds of the Kids-With-Cameras organization’s sales of the prints and book copies are to go to forming a school directly for the children of the sex workers in Calcutta.

I don’t know about the typical American’s response to the film as I am fairly aware of current Indian cinema, both Bollywood and Regional, but as a non-desi viewer, I feel that in no way was Briski and Kauffman’s project setting out to single out Calcutta as the only place in the world that has poverty, crime and mistreatment of children. We are smart enough to know that these miseries are worldwide. She just set the focus on the place where she worked and illustrated the conditions she found. We do well to look at it and then respond to that cause, and others, as we are able. I applaud them for their attempt.

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By: Niket http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4615 Niket Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:57:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4615 <p>The first thing I would like some people here to ask themselves is whether their reaction would be different had Briski been an Indian? I ask this question because one westerner is held responsible for Calcutta's image as a city of lepers and now another westerner is being held responsible for the image as a city of brothels (I am not quoting anyone here... just a feeling I get reading the replies). What should matter is the intentions of the filmmaker and not his/her nationality.</p> <p>Are we so frail that we cannot bear to see our own image in the mirror? If we don't like the image, should it really be the mirror that needs to be broken?</p> <p>Lets assume for the time being --- and I don't believe this is the case --- that Briski is a selfish filmmaker who intends to exploit the children for her own selfish means. Given this assumption, still, isn't the portrayal of the children's life honest? Isn't it true that these children have been robbed of their own childhood due to the circumstances which aren't really their fault? Isn't it true that the fleeting moment of artistic freedom --- even if it was to further the director's selfish aims --- brought genuine smiles to the children's faces?</p> <p>Why is it the director's fault if people watch this movie and believe that all of calcutta is a big brothel? That would be a bigger reason why we need to highlight what is good in the city; why we need to do more to attract investments; why we need to convince the investors that we are aware of the problems and are moving to address them; that we need to say that yes we have problems, but we need to move ahead not cringe at how difficult the problem is.</p> <p>There might be many valid criticisms of Briski, but so far I haven't heard of any that convinces me.</p> The first thing I would like some people here to ask themselves is whether their reaction would be different had Briski been an Indian? I ask this question because one westerner is held responsible for Calcutta’s image as a city of lepers and now another westerner is being held responsible for the image as a city of brothels (I am not quoting anyone here… just a feeling I get reading the replies). What should matter is the intentions of the filmmaker and not his/her nationality.

Are we so frail that we cannot bear to see our own image in the mirror? If we don’t like the image, should it really be the mirror that needs to be broken?

Lets assume for the time being — and I don’t believe this is the case — that Briski is a selfish filmmaker who intends to exploit the children for her own selfish means. Given this assumption, still, isn’t the portrayal of the children’s life honest? Isn’t it true that these children have been robbed of their own childhood due to the circumstances which aren’t really their fault? Isn’t it true that the fleeting moment of artistic freedom — even if it was to further the director’s selfish aims — brought genuine smiles to the children’s faces?

Why is it the director’s fault if people watch this movie and believe that all of calcutta is a big brothel? That would be a bigger reason why we need to highlight what is good in the city; why we need to do more to attract investments; why we need to convince the investors that we are aware of the problems and are moving to address them; that we need to say that yes we have problems, but we need to move ahead not cringe at how difficult the problem is.

There might be many valid criticisms of Briski, but so far I haven’t heard of any that convinces me.

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By: dahi bhalla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4504 dahi bhalla Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:59:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4504 <p>Interesting article in the NY Times on Chris Rock at Oscars and its narrow-minded parochial atmosphere.</p> <p>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/movies/oscars/01jame.html</p> Interesting article in the NY Times on Chris Rock at Oscars and its narrow-minded parochial atmosphere.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/01/movies/oscars/01jame.html

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By: Saurav Sarkar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4490 Saurav Sarkar Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:07:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4490 <p><i>Ashvin, my mistake. You are correct. From the email that I received, Partha is apparently some guy who worked as a translator on the film (post production as stated in the letter).</i></p> <p>Partha Bannerjee is a NY-based West Bengali community activist who currently directs the <a href="http://www.iinj.org/">International Institute of NJ</a>. He used to work at <a href="http://www.nynice.org/">NICE</a> (New Immigrant Community Empowerment).</p> Ashvin, my mistake. You are correct. From the email that I received, Partha is apparently some guy who worked as a translator on the film (post production as stated in the letter).

Partha Bannerjee is a NY-based West Bengali community activist who currently directs the International Institute of NJ. He used to work at NICE (New Immigrant Community Empowerment).

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By: Saurav Sarkar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4488 Saurav Sarkar Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:03:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4488 <p>Sorry for the addendum, but the commenting program didn't include the link to <a href="http://www.streetchildrenint.org/">Street Children</a>.</p> Sorry for the addendum, but the commenting program didn’t include the link to Street Children.

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By: Saurav Sarkar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4487 Saurav Sarkar Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:01:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4487 <p><i>c) In other words, it's fairly lame that none of us with our collective intelligence, money and time aren't using this space to discuss how we could help those kids, any kids, in India. Instead, we're bitching about who has the cultural authority to do something that's already done.</i></p> <p>My mother runs a non-profit, <a href-"http://www.streetchildrenint.org/">Street Children International</a> whose donor base is mostly professional Bengali NRI Hindu small donors. They fund pavement schools in Calcutta and additionally send money to the Ramkrishna mission in Barrackpore to sponsor a few kids up to the age of 18. They also support projects in other parts of West Bengal, India. You can <a href="mailto:sauravsarkar2000@yahoo.com">e-mail me</a> if it fits with your worldview and you want to volunteer your time/energy--really needed. I don't help out because I have more critque than energy (and I'm a bad son:) ), but they do do needed work.</p> <p>If you don't like this project, there are other projects that people are working on--e.g. <a href="http://www.probini.org/">Probini</a>. Also, the <a href="http://www.indicorps.org/">Indicorps fellowship</a> for grassroots work is coming up soon if you actually want to go to India.</p> <p>Unfortunately, while these small-scale projects are there, NRI uncles and aunties are spending far more (about 1 million dollars) on cultural affairs like the <a href="http://www.nabc2005.org/">25th anniversary of the Banga Sammelan</a>. More ironic because New York is a city that runs on <a href="http://www.andolan.net">Bengali labor</a>.</p> <p>So now can we get back to bitching? ;)</p> c) In other words, it’s fairly lame that none of us with our collective intelligence, money and time aren’t using this space to discuss how we could help those kids, any kids, in India. Instead, we’re bitching about who has the cultural authority to do something that’s already done.

My mother runs a non-profit, Street Children International whose donor base is mostly professional Bengali NRI Hindu small donors. They fund pavement schools in Calcutta and additionally send money to the Ramkrishna mission in Barrackpore to sponsor a few kids up to the age of 18. They also support projects in other parts of West Bengal, India. You can e-mail me if it fits with your worldview and you want to volunteer your time/energy–really needed. I don’t help out because I have more critque than energy (and I’m a bad son:) ), but they do do needed work.

If you don’t like this project, there are other projects that people are working on–e.g. Probini. Also, the Indicorps fellowship for grassroots work is coming up soon if you actually want to go to India.

Unfortunately, while these small-scale projects are there, NRI uncles and aunties are spending far more (about 1 million dollars) on cultural affairs like the 25th anniversary of the Banga Sammelan. More ironic because New York is a city that runs on Bengali labor.

So now can we get back to bitching? ;)

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4486 RC Tue, 01 Mar 2005 15:54:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4486 <p>AD, If you ask me, Swades is the worst kind of movie there is. (you dont want me to get started on it) also the movies that show life in US in bad light in particulars NRI in bad light are so dis-honest in the treatment that it boggles the mind. Even forums like these where we can bring out our oppositions to biases(as shown in those Bolly movies) would be a start.</p> AD, If you ask me, Swades is the worst kind of movie there is. (you dont want me to get started on it) also the movies that show life in US in bad light in particulars NRI in bad light are so dis-honest in the treatment that it boggles the mind. Even forums like these where we can bring out our oppositions to biases(as shown in those Bolly movies) would be a start.

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By: AD http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4482 AD Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:24:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4482 <p>My thought is if those of us who live in India feel free to criticise incidents and people, and policies of the US, and we absolutely do, than we should be willing to hear criticism from the West. If you want to find an analogy, movies like Pardes, Kabhie, Khushi Kabhi Gham, etc. portray a hyper negative perspective of life in the US, UK etc. Why should the bollywood filmmakers be able to portray this perspective, but as soon as someone Non Indian shows India in a negative light, or portrays the poverty that is very much in your face, we get as Indians get defensive and question the motives of the filmmaker.</p> My thought is if those of us who live in India feel free to criticise incidents and people, and policies of the US, and we absolutely do, than we should be willing to hear criticism from the West. If you want to find an analogy, movies like Pardes, Kabhie, Khushi Kabhi Gham, etc. portray a hyper negative perspective of life in the US, UK etc. Why should the bollywood filmmakers be able to portray this perspective, but as soon as someone Non Indian shows India in a negative light, or portrays the poverty that is very much in your face, we get as Indians get defensive and question the motives of the filmmaker.

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By: Anirvan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2005/02/27/brothels_nabs_o/comment-page-1/#comment-4472 Anirvan Tue, 01 Mar 2005 04:48:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=1125#comment-4472 <p>Antara writes:</p> <blockquote>there's a movie about shohini ghosh on the brothels of calcutta which chronicles the lives of how the sex workers themselves try and make more of their and their childrens' lives. (wonder why a movie about brown people helping themselves will never win an oscar..hmm..wonder why..hmm).</blockquote> <p>I really enjoyed Shohini Ghosh's <a href="http://www.bengali.net/pbn/events/2003/night_fairies/">documentary on the DSMC</a> (a collective of sex workers in Kolkata); it's a film by an Indian director, and wouldn't qualify for the Oscars' documentary category. For all the problematic ickiness and cultural politics, Zana Briski still spent several years of her life living, documenting, and teaching in Kolkata's red light district. In my book, that's long enough to deserve the 'right' to make a film about the children she taught.</p> <p>RC, calling Brisky and Kauffman "greedy SOB filmmakers" is a bit over the top. Have you read any of the responses (<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shobak_news/message/2245">1</a>, <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shobak_news/message/2248">2</a>) to Banerjee's allegations?</p> Antara writes:

there’s a movie about shohini ghosh on the brothels of calcutta which chronicles the lives of how the sex workers themselves try and make more of their and their childrens’ lives. (wonder why a movie about brown people helping themselves will never win an oscar..hmm..wonder why..hmm).

I really enjoyed Shohini Ghosh’s documentary on the DSMC (a collective of sex workers in Kolkata); it’s a film by an Indian director, and wouldn’t qualify for the Oscars’ documentary category. For all the problematic ickiness and cultural politics, Zana Briski still spent several years of her life living, documenting, and teaching in Kolkata’s red light district. In my book, that’s long enough to deserve the ‘right’ to make a film about the children she taught.

RC, calling Brisky and Kauffman “greedy SOB filmmakers” is a bit over the top. Have you read any of the responses (1, 2) to Banerjee’s allegations?

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