Comments on: Halle Brockovich http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gautami http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-159932 Gautami Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:34:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-159932 <p>How can you compare Halle Berry with Arundhati Roy? Roy's beauty is delicate yet her features are strong and striking at the same time. She has a quiet dignity and a strengh of character that Halle cannot even come close to (no offense Halle). She is also charismatic and posseses a type of intellecutal bravery that is not evident in many women - Indian or American. I think many Indians are up in arms about Roy because she questions the conventional wisdom of today's India. As long as she criticizes the west, and in particular America, Indians are more than happy to run with it. Unfortunately for such people, Roy does not perceive the world through such a simplistic dichotomy (India the good vs America the bad). Instead, she addresses inequality wherever it is practiced,and God knows India is guilty of this like any other nation. India can only free herself from third world misery once she realizes that it is the inherent right of all human beings to live as equals.</p> How can you compare Halle Berry with Arundhati Roy? Roy’s beauty is delicate yet her features are strong and striking at the same time. She has a quiet dignity and a strengh of character that Halle cannot even come close to (no offense Halle). She is also charismatic and posseses a type of intellecutal bravery that is not evident in many women – Indian or American. I think many Indians are up in arms about Roy because she questions the conventional wisdom of today’s India. As long as she criticizes the west, and in particular America, Indians are more than happy to run with it. Unfortunately for such people, Roy does not perceive the world through such a simplistic dichotomy (India the good vs America the bad). Instead, she addresses inequality wherever it is practiced,and God knows India is guilty of this like any other nation. India can only free herself from third world misery once she realizes that it is the inherent right of all human beings to live as equals.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2068 Ennis Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:38:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2068 <p>None. Tell them to grow up and go to med school, like their moms told them they should!</p> None. Tell them to grow up and go to med school, like their moms told them they should!

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By: KXB http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2067 KXB Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:02:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2067 <p>So "The Namesake", which focuses on Indian-American characters, is set to star actors mostly from India. Tamyra Gray has a lead role in Bombay Dreams, and Halle Berry is now rumored to play an Indian-American lawyer. Naveen Andrews (Lost) and Ravi Kapoor (Crossing Jordan) are both from the UK. Are there no opportunities for struggling Indian-American actors?</p> So “The Namesake”, which focuses on Indian-American characters, is set to star actors mostly from India. Tamyra Gray has a lead role in Bombay Dreams, and Halle Berry is now rumored to play an Indian-American lawyer. Naveen Andrews (Lost) and Ravi Kapoor (Crossing Jordan) are both from the UK. Are there no opportunities for struggling Indian-American actors?

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By: gc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2066 gc Fri, 26 Nov 2004 06:14:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2066 <p>Ennis, Punjabi boy, for once I am in 100% agreement.</p> Ennis, Punjabi boy, for once I am in 100% agreement.

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By: Al Mujahid http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2065 Al Mujahid Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:49:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2065 <p>The real Vanita Gupta has more negroid features than Halle. Halle infact looks like a tanned white woman.</p> The real Vanita Gupta has more negroid features than Halle. Halle infact looks like a tanned white woman.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Ennis Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:32:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2064 <p>Better <a href="http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/revpat.htm">quotes from Robertson</a>:</p> <blockquote> We have imagined ourselves invulnerable and have been consumed by the pursuit of ... health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality... It [terrorism] is happening because God Almighty is lifting his protection from us. We have a court that has essentially stuck its finger in God's eye. We have insulted God at the highest levels of our government. Then, we say, "Why does this happen?" It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us. This is God's power and he sent this thing to warn us ... we needed a shock. </blockquote> Better quotes from Robertson:

We have imagined ourselves invulnerable and have been consumed by the pursuit of … health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality… It [terrorism] is happening because God Almighty is lifting his protection from us. We have a court that has essentially stuck its finger in God’s eye. We have insulted God at the highest levels of our government. Then, we say, “Why does this happen?” It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us. This is God’s power and he sent this thing to warn us … we needed a shock.
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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2063 Ennis Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:28:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2063 <p>It's not just, or even mainly, Roy. Roy may have made those comments sitting in India, but here are Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell on the 700 club, <a href="http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/falwell-robertson-wtc.htm">discussing the 9/11 attacks just two days later</a>:</p> <blockquote> Then Falwell said, "What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve." Robertson replied, "Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population." Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen." </blockquote> <p>Twisted with hate, just like you said.</p> It’s not just, or even mainly, Roy. Roy may have made those comments sitting in India, but here are Pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell on the 700 club, discussing the 9/11 attacks just two days later:

Then Falwell said, “What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.” Robertson replied, “Well, Jerry, that’s my feeling. I think we’ve just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven’t begun to see what they can do to the major population.” Falwell said, “The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I’ll hear from them for this, but throwing God…successfully with the help of the federal court system…throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad…I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America…I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen.”

Twisted with hate, just like you said.

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By: Punjabi Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2062 Punjabi Boy Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:59:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2062 <p>gc</p> <p>Regarding the quotation you gave from Arundhati Roy; the logic of the radical left often mirrors the logic of the radical right. As an example, when Hindu extremists demolished the Babri Masjid they said it was in retaliation for the excesses of Muslim rulers...what goes around comes around. According to Arundhati that is wrong, but killing Americans is alright because what goes around comes around.</p> <p>The state of India has commited many crimes. If some psychopath decided to kill thousands of innocent New Delhites to avenge that in a September 11th style attack, no doubt she would say it was OK, that what goes around comes around. Alternatively, she could herself be killed in the same process, or one of her loved ones, and be free to reflect in heaven that its OK, my mother/husband/brother/myself deserved to be blown into one hundred pieces because I am part of a country/people/religion that "had it coming" and what goes around comes around...just like those pesky Muslims and Sikhs who were killed by the forces she opposes.</p> <p>What a putrid statement.</p> <p>As I said, the radical right and the radical left are closer to each other tahn they realise.</p> gc

Regarding the quotation you gave from Arundhati Roy; the logic of the radical left often mirrors the logic of the radical right. As an example, when Hindu extremists demolished the Babri Masjid they said it was in retaliation for the excesses of Muslim rulers…what goes around comes around. According to Arundhati that is wrong, but killing Americans is alright because what goes around comes around.

The state of India has commited many crimes. If some psychopath decided to kill thousands of innocent New Delhites to avenge that in a September 11th style attack, no doubt she would say it was OK, that what goes around comes around. Alternatively, she could herself be killed in the same process, or one of her loved ones, and be free to reflect in heaven that its OK, my mother/husband/brother/myself deserved to be blown into one hundred pieces because I am part of a country/people/religion that “had it coming” and what goes around comes around…just like those pesky Muslims and Sikhs who were killed by the forces she opposes.

What a putrid statement.

As I said, the radical right and the radical left are closer to each other tahn they realise.

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By: Punjabi Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2061 Punjabi Boy Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:51:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2061 <p>That is cool. Halle is gorgeous. I dont mind her playing Indian. At least she is brown, unlike that Matrix clown who played Buddha.</p> That is cool. Halle is gorgeous. I dont mind her playing Indian. At least she is brown, unlike that Matrix clown who played Buddha.

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By: gc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/11/24/halle_brockovic/comment-page-1/#comment-2060 gc Thu, 25 Nov 2004 05:22:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=734#comment-2060 <p><i> I am quite sure their bodies arenÂ’t as similar. </i></p> <p>yeah...i don't think halle berry's body is QUITE as twisted with hate as arundhati roy's is:</p> <p>http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4266289,00.html</p> <blockquote> It must be hard for ordinary Americans, so recently bereaved, to look up at the world with their eyes full of tears and encounter what might appear to them to be indifference. It isn't indifference. It's just augury. An absence of surprise. <b>The tired wisdom of knowing that what goes around eventually comes around.</b> </blockquote> I am quite sure their bodies arenÂ’t as similar.

yeah…i don’t think halle berry’s body is QUITE as twisted with hate as arundhati roy’s is:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4266289,00.html

It must be hard for ordinary Americans, so recently bereaved, to look up at the world with their eyes full of tears and encounter what might appear to them to be indifference. It isn’t indifference. It’s just augury. An absence of surprise. The tired wisdom of knowing that what goes around eventually comes around.
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