c’est ethnocentrisme, le racisme evolutionniste, the idea that the white people in cold climates are better evolved than the brown and black people in warm climates, and as such have the right to civilize those poor lil savages

but that is what we did. and that is where we stand. and it’s damn hard to fix the mess we created of the world over the past 500 years or so.

so maybe it is the US responsibility to liberate the Afghanis, even though we never actually colonized Afghanistan, but whatever. Moreso, the Brits’ responsibility to fix the fuckups in South Africa and Zimbabwe. And while we haven’t fixed it, provide asylum to the people from those countries we had a hand in fucking up.

But if you start putting it in THOSE terms, the same people who want us to go kick Taliban ass start getting a little freaked out…

token white girl of french and british origin, living in former british colony that belonged to france and mexico and a few other entities as well

India civilization has historically been one of the most advanced civilizations in the world and comparable to Chinese civilization. Don’t underestimate India.

” So tell me again how I’m “all wrong” about Africa, PMC? Btw, this is why I roll my eyes when people talk about how colonialism “set Africa back”. The most developed countries in Africa (Zimbabwe, SA, etc.) are the ones in which the whites stayed longest. “

Africans are experiencing many of these problems because the colonialists didn’t appropriately train Africans to take control after they left. They also didn’t set up the neccessary institutions. They did build some infrastructure and help the continent to develop, but they didn’t do enough to meaninfully contribute.

If the colonialists had appropriately developed Africa, we would see more successful nations like Bostwana and Marutius.

“Ilean Her, executive director of the state Council on Asian Pacific Minnesotans, said the census could have missed thousands of Hmong despite efforts to increase census participation. She said that while the language barrier may have kept some from filling out forms, others — skeptical that the data would be kept confidential — may have been reluctant to disclose extended families or second wives and sets of children living under one roof with their own family.”

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/8235325p-9166245c.html

” As bad as life is in Thailand, it does have some advantages, Xiong said.

‘One of the fears is that Hmong in America are losing their culture,’ he said. ‘(Those in Thailand) are not losing their kids to violence or gangs or drugs. Their family units are intact. There’s no educational outlet for the kids, but the majority of people my parents’ age are living there happily.’”

“Many of the Hmong in Sacramento live in depressed neighborhoods and attend schools where fights are common, Xiong said. Even those who have avoided violence are struggling, he said: ‘There are 7,000 Hmong in the Sacramento Unified School District and only 4 percent are reading at grade level.’”

“‘The first wave took about 10 years to adjust to this society,” he said. “Many committed suicide. No matter how much we help them (the newcomers), they’re going to have emotional problems. I’m glad that people are coming, but I’m worried. … Our kids aren’t doing good in school because nobody teaches them or their parents how to survive in this country.’”

“Depends what you mean by “succeed”, of course…”

It’s certainly a subjective term. By “succeed” I mean enter the labor force, have your children complete school, send some community members to college, learn the local language, and participate in society. Blacks have managed to do this after centuries of oppression and discrimination.

“But I’m a bit puzzled…my main annoyance was that you initially misrepresented my arguments as simpleminded, nonfactual outbursts when you knew they were more complex (as this follow-up reveals). Heck, you agree with the key points – namely that IQ has a neurogenetic basis, that it’s important, that it’s not equally distributed, and that Blank Slatism/Communism is bad. Everything else is just arguing about epsilons.”

I only read your posts occasionally on GNXP. Some of your posts seemed to be reasonable to me, but others were not. I remember reading posts where you were quite skeptical that Africans could ever build successful nations and even seemed to suggest that South Africa shouldn’t have abolished apartheid. You made other posts complaining about an overrepresentation of black doctors on ER. I also remember some posts where you suggested that government programs were unneccessary and that Asian immigrants would certainly always succeed due to their genetics.

Today I looked up some of your old posts in the archives that criticize “American Renaissance” and other racists. Viewing these post has made me realize that I admittedly was wrong to accuse you of supporting highly discriminative views.

However, I think you don’t realize the centuries of oppression and discrimination that African-Americans and other racial minorities faced. You rely too much on racial explanations for their behavior rather than cultural explanations. You also don’t realize that the government has been instrumental in helping minorities to succeed. It has helped African-Americans to succeed. It’s now helping the Hmong to succeed.

“And you have to admit that I presented a TON of data on this stuff from different angles for my POV – including Thompson and Gray on IQ, for example.”

I’ll concede that there’s substanial evidence to suggest a genetic basis for racial differences in IQ. However, all racial groups are probably intelligent enough to succeed if they’re given assistance.

“Here’s a challenge: I’d like you to name the top 5 areas in the US with a high – let’s say 60%-plus – African-American population that are nice places to live. Use the city compare tool here.”

I’ve talked to some people that live in areas with high concentrations of African-Americans. I’m not sure of the exact proportions of African-Americans in their areas, but they do constitute a large minority. These areas were described to me as being pleasant upper-class communities where the different races get along well.

1.) The Washington D.C. suburbs 2.) Rolling Oaks 3.) Brook Glen 4.) Panola Mill 5.) Wyndham Park 6.) Shaker Heights 7.) Columbia

“I want to see 5 places in the US with greater than 60% African-American populations that have crime rates below the national average.”

Crime rates are generally high in black areas. The inhumane treatment black slaves received, the destruction of their families by the slave owners, centuries of discrimination, negative stereotypes, and an unfortunate street culture theat glorifies violence contributes a lot to their high crime rates.

The Vietnamese and Hmong also have high crime rates in their communities. If someone thought crime rates depended entirely on race, they’d be surprised to see the crime problems that these communities face. If someone realized that discrimination and inequality in society can force people into crime, they wouldn’t be surprised.

and i completely disagree w/ your views on africa – again, comparing an african ex-colony w/ china is not a fair comparison. you can’t even compare it to colonized india. but i’ll get to it later.

Africa ‘better in colonial times’ The average African is worse off now than during the colonial era, the brother of South Africa’s President Thabo Mbeki has said. Moeletsi Mbeki accused African elites of stealing money and keeping it abroad, while colonial rulers planted crops and built roads and cities. “This is one of the depressing features of Africa,” he said. He said that while China had lifted some 400 [million] people out of poverty in the past 20 years, Nigeria had pushed 71 million people below the poverty line… In July, a United Nations report said that Africa was the only continent where poverty had increased in the past 20 years…

So tell me again how I’m “all wrong” about Africa, PMC? Btw, this is why I roll my eyes when people talk about how colonialism “set Africa back”. The most developed countries in Africa (Zimbabwe, SA, etc.) are the ones in which the whites stayed longest.

what do you think of communism as it existed in kerala

The only reason Kerala didn’t become a gulag is because Communists hadn’t taken over the country. Similarly, the only reason France didn’t go down the path of East Germany (complete with secret police, forced abortions, and a prison-state that shot anyone who tried to escape over the Berlin Wall) was that the Communists only got 30% or so in the elections.

When it takes over a society, communism leads to poverty and mass murder with probability 1. Remember, communism is about the elimination of private property. Every single thing you’ve ever worked for can be seized by the state at will, including the very shirt off your back. Communism is about guys with guns storming into your house, stealing everything you have, and carting you off to a slave labor camp to work for the “collective”.

just would like to hear your thoughts on it

My thoughts on it are in this post. The following books have also been very influential:

1. The Black Book of Communism: documents the 100 million dead.
2. The Gulag Archipelago: a personal account of the horrors of communism, much like the Diary of Anne Frank.

Bottom line for me: Communism killed many more people than Nazism, but Communist Holocaust denial is still prevalent in academe & the media. Usually they will say that the Communists “meant well”…yet the same defense is not extended to, say, the Spanish Inquisition. This has all kinds of consequences, not least the Blank Slate Asymmetry: the idea that man can be blasted clean and remade by ideology. As I said in that post:

In the 20th century, the singleminded pursuit of a classless society consistently and inevitably ran headlong into the brick wall of human nature and human hereditary inequality. Humans are not identical clones whose only desire is to serve the collective. They cannot be denuded of homes & property, culture & family, and religion & tradition without consequence – or without force. Thus, the idea that man is just a stone slate to be blasted clean and remade by ideology lead inexorably to the idea that human scruple – rather than human nature – is the only barrier between our imperfect world and an earthly utopia. Those who wished to create these earthbound utopias decided that it was better to abandon restraint and employ unlimited force than to accept that some human attributes were resistant to change. The result was unending calamity in the 20th century.

We are still dealing with the fallout from neo-Communists who still denounce capitalism and refuse to learn the lessons of the 20th century.

i’m not a proponent of communism, just would like to hear your thoughts on it. in fact, like many i know, i lack identification w/ any existent political party, though i vote democrat. i would like to say i subscribe to libertarianism, but unfortunately can’t resolve it w/ my belief that people are inherently self-centered and, for lack of a better term, evil. really, i’m an optimist.