Comments on: Sigma “nice-Beta” Rho http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nitin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-10636 Nitin Mon, 16 May 2005 20:51:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-10636 <p>DPB is merely in indian club that has greek letters. So yes they would be the first co-ed south asian greek org..."sorternity"...however, Iota Nu Delta, still remains as the first South Asian Brotherhood aka Fraternity. Issue resolved</p> DPB is merely in indian club that has greek letters. So yes they would be the first co-ed south asian greek org…”sorternity”…however, Iota Nu Delta, still remains as the first South Asian Brotherhood aka Fraternity. Issue resolved

]]> By: Crucible http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-9938 Crucible Tue, 10 May 2005 03:15:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-9938 <p>Well, I believe that Indians do need to have a fraternal organizations that look out for their interests as well. I always thought of Fraternities as composed of white or white washed kids who are paying to have friends and never thought much of them until I pledged Iota Nu Delta fraternity myself. I have realized that there is a lot more to fraternities than just parties and stuff. It is also about meeting new people and growing ever lasting brotherhood among browns of various backgrounds and upbringing. I pledged with 7 line brothers and went throught blood, sweat and tears to earn my letters and never been more happier for doing so in my life. A lot of people from my fraternity come from different attitudes from the really whitewashed rich kids to dirt poor ghetto kids but in the end we all meshed together to do something positive for our community. And the best part of it is that I got to know and create bonds of brotherhood with my brown brothers who I would have never met outside of my fraternity. When I first decided to do a fraternity, I wanted to do a Black Fraternity such as APHIA just because I thght they were hardcore and a lot of my friends did it but now that I think about it, I would have lamented it because their agendas are different from what I would have wanted in a fraternity. In the end it comes down whether you feel comfortable with both the people that you pledging for and the ideals for which they stand for. I am happy that I pledged a Indian Fraternity and happy that I get to work in community service events geared towards desis and the southeast Asian community such as Garbas, Tsunami Relief and South Asian Bone Marrow Drive. If I was to pledge a Caucasian Fraternity, not only would I have to stood out for certain things but I would have never had the option of working towards things that mattered to South East Asian in general.</p> Well, I believe that Indians do need to have a fraternal organizations that look out for their interests as well. I always thought of Fraternities as composed of white or white washed kids who are paying to have friends and never thought much of them until I pledged Iota Nu Delta fraternity myself. I have realized that there is a lot more to fraternities than just parties and stuff. It is also about meeting new people and growing ever lasting brotherhood among browns of various backgrounds and upbringing. I pledged with 7 line brothers and went throught blood, sweat and tears to earn my letters and never been more happier for doing so in my life. A lot of people from my fraternity come from different attitudes from the really whitewashed rich kids to dirt poor ghetto kids but in the end we all meshed together to do something positive for our community. And the best part of it is that I got to know and create bonds of brotherhood with my brown brothers who I would have never met outside of my fraternity. When I first decided to do a fraternity, I wanted to do a Black Fraternity such as APHIA just because I thght they were hardcore and a lot of my friends did it but now that I think about it, I would have lamented it because their agendas are different from what I would have wanted in a fraternity. In the end it comes down whether you feel comfortable with both the people that you pledging for and the ideals for which they stand for. I am happy that I pledged a Indian Fraternity and happy that I get to work in community service events geared towards desis and the southeast Asian community such as Garbas, Tsunami Relief and South Asian Bone Marrow Drive. If I was to pledge a Caucasian Fraternity, not only would I have to stood out for certain things but I would have never had the option of working towards things that mattered to South East Asian in general.

]]> By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8658 A N N A Tue, 26 Apr 2005 23:28:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8658 <blockquote>•Delta Gamma uses the term Fraternity because the word is derived from the Greek derivative "phratres" meaning "groups of people with similar interests.</blockquote> <p>as i stated earlier, i was a DG, and as the information above indicates, WE were a fraternity. we certainly (save for <a href="http://www.deltagamma.org/dg_fun_facts.shtml">one notable exception</a>) weren't co-ed. i think people are too attached to ubiquitous meanings for certain words, even if those meanings aren't entirely accurate. hey, it's human. :)</p> •Delta Gamma uses the term Fraternity because the word is derived from the Greek derivative “phratres” meaning “groups of people with similar interests.

as i stated earlier, i was a DG, and as the information above indicates, WE were a fraternity. we certainly (save for one notable exception) weren’t co-ed. i think people are too attached to ubiquitous meanings for certain words, even if those meanings aren’t entirely accurate. hey, it’s human. :)

]]> By: Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8641 Singh Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:58:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8641 <p>Delta Phi Beta - nation's first South Asian co-ed fraternity. This one sounds good. Agreed desidancer?</p> Delta Phi Beta – nation’s first South Asian co-ed fraternity. This one sounds good. Agreed desidancer?

]]> By: DesiDancer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8639 DesiDancer Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:47:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8639 <p>Actually, Singh- it's only the secondary definition that makes gender a factor in <a href="http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fraternity">"fraternity"</a></p> <p>including women certainly makes it no <em>less</em> a fraternity. In fact, it might make it more of one ;)</p> Actually, Singh- it’s only the secondary definition that makes gender a factor in “fraternity”

including women certainly makes it no less a fraternity. In fact, it might make it more of one ;)

]]> By: Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8637 Singh Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:42:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8637 <p>Technically, they are not a true fraternity or brotherhood at all, but simply an organization bercause they have both males and female members. Maybe we can call them a frarority.</p> Technically, they are not a true fraternity or brotherhood at all, but simply an organization bercause they have both males and female members. Maybe we can call them a frarority.

]]> By: Manish Vij http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8629 Manish Vij Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:04:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8629 <blockquote>While Delta Phi Beta is a co-ed social/service organization, it is not a fraternity in any sense.</blockquote> <p>That's not <a href="http://www.dphib.com/">what they'd tell you</a>: 'Delta Phi Beta - The Nation's First South Asian Fraternity'</p> While Delta Phi Beta is a co-ed social/service organization, it is not a fraternity in any sense.

That’s not what they’d tell you: ‘Delta Phi Beta – The Nation’s First South Asian Fraternity’

]]> By: Singh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8628 Singh Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:57:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8628 <p>Hi, I believe you are incorrect, Manish Vij. While Delta Phi Beta is a co-ed social/service organization, it is not a fraternity in any sense. The first South Asian (Desi) fraternity to be founded was in upstate New York in 1994 and goes by the name Iota Nu Delta, commonly referred to as IND. As far as I can tell, they are still active and continuing their expansion process. Just making a correction.</p> <p>Here is proof: www.iotanudelta.org</p> Hi, I believe you are incorrect, Manish Vij. While Delta Phi Beta is a co-ed social/service organization, it is not a fraternity in any sense. The first South Asian (Desi) fraternity to be founded was in upstate New York in 1994 and goes by the name Iota Nu Delta, commonly referred to as IND. As far as I can tell, they are still active and continuing their expansion process. Just making a correction.

Here is proof: http://www.iotanudelta.org

]]> By: Raj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-8252 Raj Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:57:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-8252 <p>just surfed through, read the posts.</p> <p>We're in the middle of re-vamping our website, but you should take a look anyways.</p> <p>take care.</p> <p>www.betachitheta.com</p> just surfed through, read the posts.

We’re in the middle of re-vamping our website, but you should take a look anyways.

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]]> By: Raju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2004/08/30/sigma_nicebeta/comment-page-1/#comment-5642 Raju Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:56:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=305#comment-5642 <p>the way I see it, being a desi can be an awesome thing if you do it right. we know about so many cultures. but you gotta be careful of not being in evironments that will make you feel lesser. there's no reason for us to feel like we're wrong or worse because we're desi, but unfortunately even among people who are friends, you can sort of feel that way.</p> <p>Who wants to be watching their back for that kind of stuff? A group of friends should be about understanding and respect, and trust. To be laughing along and then hear some kind of record scratch opinion, reduces that level of comfort.</p> <p>so anyway I guess its all good but I don't begrude people for joining an all desi frat. I think its cool. But we should also be out in the wider society, which is multi-racial, not bipolar, bc that can be pretty fun.</p> the way I see it, being a desi can be an awesome thing if you do it right. we know about so many cultures. but you gotta be careful of not being in evironments that will make you feel lesser. there’s no reason for us to feel like we’re wrong or worse because we’re desi, but unfortunately even among people who are friends, you can sort of feel that way.

Who wants to be watching their back for that kind of stuff? A group of friends should be about understanding and respect, and trust. To be laughing along and then hear some kind of record scratch opinion, reduces that level of comfort.

so anyway I guess its all good but I don’t begrude people for joining an all desi frat. I think its cool. But we should also be out in the wider society, which is multi-racial, not bipolar, bc that can be pretty fun.

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